Some were skeptical when it was first announced, but I wasn't. The idea of an Assassin's Creed set in the United States during the Revolutionary War still gives me goosebumps. …there they go.

It's actually surprising how few of the games we play are actually set in the US. If they are, it's often difficult to tell; most times, it's just a fantasy world. But to have a vibrant, realistic, meticulously designed environment (just look at past AC entries) that is supposed to recreate part of our country during a very important period should be undeniably appealing to Americans. It seems like common sense.

Now, it's certainly true that Assassin's Creed III is the first "true" installment since ACII and the beginning of Ezio Auditore's story, which continued through a couple more entries ( Brotherhood and Revelations ). It's also true that all titles in question have been immensely popular, so it's not like this series is finally tasting popularity. There's also the fact that Ubisoft is issuing some major changes and upgrades for this new adventure, which is bound to make everyone stand up and applaud. Well, they'll applaud the concept, at the very least; the implementation and execution quality will be determined at a later date.

But might the setting have a little to do with the fact that ACIII pre-orders are jumping through the roof ? Of course, this will be a global product but remember, those numbers are US-only, so maybe it shouldn't be surprising to see such a reaction. Even those who may have been suspicious of the idea at first are starting to warm to it, and there's no doubt that people are excited. I really think some of that excitement stems from the environment, which we've never really seen before. The closest would probably be the Western frontier in Red Dead Redemption .

I think there's something about playing through a piece of history that's relevant to one's own country, and that's going to continue to fuel interest in the US. Just a theory.

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laxpro2001
laxpro2001
9 years ago

"It's actually surprising how few of the games we play are actually set in the US."

Perhaps why freedom fighters was one of my favorite ps2 shooters (even though it was alternate reality based). That game kidn of screamed patriotism.

I think location is partly responsible for the increased popularity but we also have to give credit the game series itself. Improvements between ACI and II were phenomenal. They took a great game and made it superb. I think that definitely brought a lot more attention to the series so its only natural in my opinion that the number of fans will increase.

Also its not a game where you need to understand the story to have fun so that makes not playing a previous AC not a huge limiting factor in popularity IMO

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

I absolutely think the setting is a big part of it. Heck, I'm really wanting to play that new Shogun 2 game because of its setting as well.. oh, and for it's great reviews too.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/63640/Total-War-Shogun-2-Fall-Of-The-Samurai-Story-Trailer-Released

dmiitrie
dmiitrie
9 years ago

Shogun II is really solid. It does a pretty good job of recreating Sengoku era Japan. Haven't tried the DLC for it though. That takes the setting up to the Bakumatsu period, right?

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Baku-what? All I know is it looks like The Last Samurai without Tom Cruise. When it comes to history not about video games I know very little.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Whatever the case I think it is awesome because young Americans (and some older ones in congress) seem to have absolutely no clue how we became a nation or why. If this were any other game that wouldn't matter much, but AC does tend to contain a few history lessons in the presentation and folks need that around here.

wiiplay
wiiplay
9 years ago

I've always been an Assassin's Creed fan, but thanks to the general lack of money, I'm behind a few games.

Still, I can't wait until Assassin's Creed 3 releases, and assuming I can buy and beat Revelations between now and then, it's sure to be a day-one purchase for me.

Also, yes. It's your lovable Wiiplay. Hope you guys didn't forget about my existence. I'm one of the oldest members, you know. :p

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

You and Jawknee should start a PSXE Nintendo Admirers Brigade

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

lol, don't give 'em any ideas, World. I suspect we'll see a lot of Ninty-fans passing through here post-e3 to brag of their precious Wii U. Then Ben will man handle them and send 'em on their way =p

(My opinion does not represent the opinion of PSXe and their staff)

… and I do want to like Wii U. Only if Nintendo makes Wii U like me


Last edited by Temjin001 on 3/29/2012 10:23:38 PM

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Yea, I wouldn't do that out of the sheer disgust I have with some of my fellow Nintendo fans. I didn't want to believe it but after visiting some Ninty blogs, I was taken aback by some of the people commenting. Many of them are worse than the worst PS360bots.

wiiplay
wiiplay
9 years ago

@Temjin001

Hey, don't underestimate the WiiU. The WiiU is an impressive current-generation console!

Next generation, on the other hand? Well, it'll collect dust on the shelf, just like the Wii currently does.

Still, I honestly can't wait for the WiiU. Not because I'm a Nintendo fanboy, even though I consider Nintendo to be the only real gaming company left in this corrupted corporate world. The only reason I want the WiiU is simply because it's a piece of technology. I'm a tech collector, you know. I gotta have them all.

Oh, and Mario Kart. Gotta love Mario Kart.
(As you may suspect, I'm also a huge Modnation Racers fan)

@Worlds

Technically, I used to operate a very large (13 million user) website that was devoted entirely to the Nintendo DS and Wii. That was the only reason I took the name Wiiplay.
That website has since died off, and I now operate a social network for gamers. Yay for horrible website ideas! Haha

Also, I came up with the name Wiiplay before the video game 'Wii Play' was even announced. So, Nintendo copied me. 😛


Last edited by wiiplay on 3/29/2012 11:02:50 PM

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

My wife and I played Mario Kart on the Wii today, split-screen. My daughter was also totally amused by all of the wacky stuff it does, like bananas and water slides, and dinosaurs.

wiiplay
wiiplay
9 years ago

@Temjin001
Cartoons aren't meant to make sense. I mean, look at the classic Bugs Bunny cartoons.
That's why I simply adore Nintendo games. They remind me of the good old days. The days when talking rabbits and smart-mouthed ducks were accepted forms of entertainment.

bebestorm
bebestorm
9 years ago

I believe it does because Im excited to see how everything plays out. Its always exciting in a game when we get a new protagonist. I was always concerned about AC III would be all about Desmond because he weak compared to Altair and Ezio Im sure Conner will out shine him as well.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I'm excited because of the said improvements. The setting is probably the least interesting aspect of the game to me though still some what interesting. I think the Wii U features are what pulled me to pick this up day one.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I'm not up to snuff on just what Ninty has in mind, what will the features be? And could you see them being implemented with the PS3 version for owners of Vita?

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

You should know, Jawknee. It will more than likely have screen tearing 😉

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

@World, Here are some of the features revealed in the latest Nintendo Power.

Wii U tablet controller can act as some form of link to the Assassin’s Creed “Animus”

Wii U tablet Animus can be used as a persistent on-screen map and navigation tool.

Animus Database entries that may pop up from time to time, could be displayed on the touchscreen instead and not interrupt the flow of the game.

The Animus can also act as an encyclopedia of information. Character biographies and bits of information that  would normally be cast aside could be displayed on the touchscreen (take a break and read up on the side story & character history while eating dinner?).

Easy touchscreen weapon selection during combat. Quick change from dual-wield combat to single with a simple touch.

Using the touchscreen as an alternate view for Eagle Vision. Using the built-in accelerometer to control the camera view while in Eagle Vision.

I assume it could be done via PS3/Vita. Don't know If they plan on it though considering anyone who buys the Wii U will have the tablet while not everyone who owns a PS3 will own a Vita.

@Temji, heh…I'm not getting my hopes up too much but the little hope I do have is since its a revamped version of their engine and the newer, more powerful Wii U hardware will help with that.


Last edited by Jawknee on 3/29/2012 10:35:09 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Interesting stuff, seeing how that tablet is put to use (or not put to use) should make for interesting reading.

wiiplay
wiiplay
9 years ago

@Jawknee
Whoa, I had no idea that the Wii U version of AC3 would actually have some advantages.
Normally, I'm used to Nintendo platforms providing games with lesser overall features and quality, this is especially true with third party titles.

So, the Wii U has now been bumped up a tad on my console of choice. I might actually spend some time playing non-Nintendo games on the WiiU. *might* being the key word there.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

I just…there are some games that I really don't want touchscreen with, and this would definitely be one of them.

wiiplay
wiiplay
9 years ago

@Ben

Personally, I enjoy touch screen controls, if it's done correctly. I won't deny that some games on the Wii U will simply use touch controls as a way of showing off what the touch screen controller is capable of.
The same can be said for other touch-screen devices, such as the Nintendo DS and the PlayStation Vita. Are touch controls entirely a requirement? Certainly not. However, why avoid using these other control schemes? The way I see it, If the console has it, then developers may as well use that feature to the best of their ability. Be it touch, motion control or 3D graphics.

To each his own, though. For me, if it can improve gameplay, or provide new game experiences, then I'll support it.
If it's just a gimmick, and does not provide any kind of gameplay advantages, then to heck with it.

Also, no. I wasn't just referencing the Nintendo 3DS, as believe it or not, 3D can be used to provide a new kind of playing experience. Although, sadly, game designers aren't yet using the 3D display correctly.

Imagine, a puzzle game like Echochrome on the 3DS. That's the kind of stuff I want to see.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

@Wiiplay, Yea Miyamoto said himself that he hasn't been satisfied yet with what developers are going with the 3DS which is surprising because I thought Mario 3D Land was one of the best Mario games yet because of the 3D.

@Ben, I mostly like the idea of having the tablet controller as the HUD instead of it being on the TV. I always like games with the least amount of HUD space possible except Mertoid Prime. It was cool having the option of turn up the helmet around the edge of the screen. In the end I think the touch controls in AC3 on Wii U will more than likely just add additional buttons like MGS3D. It's nice having the item, camo, healing, food, map, weapons, etc buttons right there, easily accessible instead of having to pause the game and navigate through the pause menu. The same was done with Ocarina of Time 3D as well. No HUD on the top screen. Everything was displayed below on the touch screen with quick access via touch.


Last edited by Jawknee on 3/30/2012 12:17:26 AM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

Yeah, sorry, but this is one game I would want to play on the PS3.

wiiplay
wiiplay
9 years ago

@Ben

Assassin's Creed does "feel" like a PlayStation game. Not sure why, but something about that game just gives off a high tech vibe.

Still, I'd be willing to purchase Assassin's Creed on any platform, and since the Wii U appears to have some exclusive advantages and / or features, well, it seems only logical to get the enhanced version, right?

Don't get me wrong, I'm likely to buy a version of AC3 for every platform it releases on. But, I personally am looking forward to the WiiU version more than the others. Heck, even OnLive is a major contender for my "where shall I buy it" list.

I know this is a PlayStation website, so it only makes sense for you, Ben, to buy the PS3 version of AC3. Still, I do hope you'll consider the other versions, as no matter how wonderful the PS3 version is, sometimes the other platforms have their own exclusive content to throw into the mix.

Still, that's just my personal opinion, as a fan of the series. I just need to get the best possible gaming experience, and if other consoles allow me to do more, or if they have their own exclusive content, chances are, I'll buy it.

Heck, I'd love to see AC3 being released on the Vita. Uncharted, ModNation, The Show and Unit 13 are fun, but they're no where near enough for my shiny new handheld device.

@Jawknee

Mario Land 3D was a fantastic game, but most of the courses did not require 3D to be enabled. Sure, having 3D enabled did make some of the levels easier, but it certainly wasn't a requirement to beat the game.
With or without 3D, Mario Land 3D would have been fantastic.
I want to see more games that focus more heavily on using 3D to interact with the world. I just can't stop thinking about Echochrome, and how you moved the 3D world to form 2D illusions.

If I recall, Mario Land 3D had a similar mini-game, which you can access if you go idle at the main start menu. If you haven't yet seen that mini-game / level, I encourage you to do so.


Last edited by wiiplay on 3/30/2012 12:52:50 AM

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

@Wiiplay, I never play my 3DS games without 3D turned up to the max. I don't think I played a single level in Mario 3D Land without it. And I didn't know about the mini game. I'll have to check it out. Thinking about it, I only ever noticed the control display when letting the main menu idle. I'll check it out before I hit the sack. Thanks for the heads up.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

What kind of battery life does a tablet controller have? I'd be pretty annoyed if i had to recharge a controller every 4 hours because the screen ate up all the juice.

hehe oh yeah Anyone remember how annoying the DC was when it beeped for like 2 secs every time you hit the power button and it sensed the VMU had dead batteries?

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I have no idea. Hopefully it has better battery life than the 3DS. I didn't even think about that until you mentioned it. They really need to make sure that thing can last for extended play sessions.

Shams
Shams
9 years ago

I still have to play brotherhood and revelations. By the time 3 is out, I'll be able to get the two prequels on the cheap for my laptop. Target and Walmart is selling AC1 & AC2 together for $10 bucks on the pc.

PC_Max
PC_Max
9 years ago

Not surprising that Americans would buy/pre-order a game set in a time they are most proud of. Makes sense.

The game still does not interest me still, but I will wait for launch and give it a few weeks or a month and get the verdict from people around the world.

I'm not a wave flagger as I am sure thats how this game is being perceived and maybe incorrectly so, but I do not find personally the time and place interesting. Yep, I am not American but I did study American history as well as world histories such as Russian, English and European in general. I'm Canadian so don't get me started on Canadian history. lol.

Of course this is a game so thats where my focus really is. Thus far the screen shots don't grab me, but I am sure Ubi has surprises in store. And Ubi knows they can make big sales in the US with this game and thats what counts.

Lets see what they deliver. Keep Playing.

FxTales
FxTales
9 years ago

I think since the last three games have been about Ezio that a new era and character influence the intrigue.

berserk
berserk
9 years ago

Pretty sure it s mostly because it feel more like a game then a big expansion pack .

I did nt play beyond creed 2 but i ll play this one mostly for the reason i said above .

___________
___________
9 years ago

then maybe you should, then you will realise there FAR from a big expansion pack.
never has such a ridiculous statement been uttered!

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

yeah, you missed out. They definitely aren't just expansion packs. But whatever. Your loss.

berserk
berserk
9 years ago

To me FEEL does not mean THEY ARE .That s just the feeling i got from watching info/video on the last 2 in the past but it s not the case on Creed 3.The reason why i m excited about that one and not with the other two before .

When i watched info on them they looked like one TO ME or at least they looked too much alike to my liking .I ll play them one day ( almost bought revelation not long ago )but i ll definitely play Creed 3 first since it definitely look like a definite upgrade to # 2 .


Last edited by berserk on 3/30/2012 12:44:50 PM

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

AC2 is fantastic for it's story. I found Brotherhood to be the best in the series so far. Only down side is that it only takes place in one city. On the other hand, it's far larger than any place in AC2.

Gameplay is similar, but that's where the "expansion" feel ends. There's enough additions to make it it's own entry. And the story in Brotherhood is equally as long as AC2. AC:R is the shorter of the 3.

berserk
berserk
9 years ago

Thx for the info , i ll be sure to get brotherhood before revelation ( ac3 still gonna be first tho ) to get the most out of my money then .

___________
___________
9 years ago

absolutely not!
if anything its whats causing allot of worry, as ive said before the US is not exactly known for its architectural beauty like EU is.
ACs beauty has always come from its atmosphere, its atmosphere has always come from its environment, its beautiful cities.
im really worried were going to miss out in this.
its popularity is because the series is FINALLY changing!
there adding and adjusting allot of things that were a little outdated so of course people are starting to stand up and listen.
allot of people were complaining about revelations because it was the same old same old so ubisoft finally decided to change things up a bit!

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

"It's actually surprising how few of the games we play are actually set in the US."
Compared to… Where? Of all the games taking place on planet earth, what games are NOT set in the USA?

From the top of my head I can think of these games that takes place in our world:
Fallout 3: USA
Fallout NV: USA
The GTAs: USA
Crysis 2: USA
Far Cry 2: Africa

The only general exception I can think of is the WW2 games, they usually take place across several continents (obviously).
But I don't understand how you can say it's "surprising" how FEW games take place in the US…! I think you need to be an American in order to see it like that. 😀


Last edited by Beamboom on 3/30/2012 4:26:47 AM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

None of those are recognizable as US locations, except for maybe GTAIV (NYC), as I mentioned in the article. They're just not designed as well as Ubisoft's AC titles are; when I was in Italy, it felt and looked an awful lot like Italy. I'm not sure I'd say the same about any Fallout or GTA.

Also, none are historical. That's a very big distinction.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

… Red Dead Redemption = USA/Mexico
LA Noire = USA
Resistance 3 = USA

The Fallouts had plenty recognizable USA locations/references, you find both the White House and other landmarks there, plus of course, their version of Las Vegas.

But if we talk about historically correct recreations then we narrow it down extremely, cause practically NO game is that – but I bet that those who are, are mainly in the states too. Like LA Noire.

I've never been in Italy but I've been in France and the old part of those cities reminded me of Assassins Creed too. They really are masterful games.
This will be great.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

But that's what I mean. Without the historical aspect, the setting is less meaningful. ACIII is the first game I can think of that focuses very heavily on an important part of a country's history, and it's a FOCAL point.

In games like RDR, GTA, and Fallout, it's more of a background. Just an environment in which to play. AC has always been about more than that; about wandering around and actually immersing yourself in both a real-life city AND a time period.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

True. Right now I can't think of *any* other game who are anything like Assassins Creed in this respect. Not one.

You know those "fact sheets" describing locations and persons and so on, I wonder how much of that content are actual, real world facts and how much is fiction. I've always asked myself that when playing those games. – "Is this true?"
Cause it looks so… Real!


Last edited by Beamboom on 3/30/2012 12:49:31 PM

SirLoin of Beef
SirLoin of Beef
9 years ago

"Where? Of all the games taking place on planet earth, what games are NOT set in the USA?"

Here are a few:
All of the Assassin's Creed games (save the upcoming III)
The Uncharted games
Mass Effect 3
Most of the Call of Duty games
Medal of Honor
The God of War games
The two Lego Harry Potter games

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

SirLoin: I do of course mean except for the AC games.

There are PLENTY of games that are located in some imaginary, non specific location, like "an exotic island" or a fantasy world. Mass Effect isn't even on this planet (except at the very beginning of ME3, but even then it's in the USA unless I am mistaken).

I talk about games where there is a clear attempt to recreate actual earth locations or cultures. But yeah you got the war themed games (as I mention too), but there you usually play an American soldier instead. 😀

I think you really need to be an American yourself to not see how extremely dominating Americans/USA are in all western entertainment.

SirLoin of Beef
SirLoin of Beef
9 years ago

"There are PLENTY of games that are located in some imaginary, non specific location, like "an exotic island" or a fantasy world. Mass Effect isn't even on this planet (except at the very beginning of ME3, but even then it's in the USA unless I am mistaken)."

The beginning of ME3 is Vancouver and the ending is in London. Neither location is in the US.

"I talk about games where there is a clear attempt to recreate actual earth locations or cultures. But yeah you got the war themed games (as I mention too), but there you usually play an American soldier instead. :D"

In some of the CoD games (and others), you not only play as Americans but as British.

In God of War you're doing your thing in Athens, among other places, and I doubt they're referring to the city of Athens in the US state of Georgia. The architecture and such reflects it, too.

In the Uncharted games, the locations you're put in are clearly defined to be non-American locations due to the scenery, backdrop, etc.

"I think you really need to be an American yourself to not see how extremely dominating Americans/USA are in all western entertainment."

We do dominate western entertainment. I've never said otherwise. That doesn't mean, however, that it proves your statement that every game that takes place on Earth takes place in the US. That just is not true.


Last edited by SirLoin of Beef on 3/30/2012 1:24:35 PM

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

Not *every*, no. I never said that. I even use Far Cry 2 and war themed games myself as examples of exceptions.

As for Uncharted, ok, while being veeeery "American adventurer" and extremely American both in style and attitude I can accept Uncharted as an exception too, since I'm in such a good mood today. 🙂

But Mass Effect really is not a good example of anything earthly. GoW is more what I'd call a fantasy (not the genre, but the realm) with its story based on mythology. So when those two franchises are used as examples of how not every game is located in the USA I think that in its own way proves my point here.

But I think basically we agree anyway. I think I sense that from that last paragraph of yours.


Last edited by Beamboom on 3/30/2012 2:53:28 PM

Fox hounder
Fox hounder
9 years ago

WOW!

I am out of the loop. I did not know AC3 is going to be set during the American Revolutionary War. Thats awesome!

Good article ben 🙂

Laguna
Laguna
9 years ago

I kind of wish they did not jump so quickly in time. I would have liked to see japan or hell some more of the somewhat very old civilizations in europe.

I loved how assassins creed dared to go to a time period that many games didnt.

AC3 has a great period too, I just hope they don't try and move too quickly to present day with future titles

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Think about 19-early20th century Russia!!! Amazing architecture, think history, political twistedness… everything a good AC needs!

PC_Max
PC_Max
9 years ago

True enough in regards to some comments above. I think the vast majority of the games that I have played are either placed in the US or the character themselves is American. Granted, if its not a western like Red Dead Redemption, its a apocalyptic US cities like Fallout 3.

That can make sense if the publisher is American, they know what they know best… the US. Not painting all the US publishers that way. I think many like to create outside of their comfort zones successfully or not.

Regardless, once this game is launched and all the DLC is made for it, my hope is they are already planning a female character for a AC4 game based in China or Japan. Why female, because I think the vast majority of games are all male lead characters and it would be nice for a change OR like ME series, give the player the choice.

Lets see what AS3 is like first. Keep Playing!