Industry veteran David Braben just recently said the used game market is to blame for keeping retail game costs high and now, another gaming vet echoes that sentiment.

This time it's Silicon Knights founder Denis Dyack, who told GI International that pre-owned games are a severe threat to the industry. In fact, he says if things continue the way they are, "there's not going to be an industry."

"If used games continue the way that they are, it's going to cannibalize, there's not going to be an industry. People won't make those kinds of games. So I think that's inflated the price of games, and I think that prices would have come down if there was a longer tail, but there isn't."

Dyack added that there's "no tail" to a game, in that a publisher and developer ca't keep making money, as the used copies of that title take the place of new ones and subsequently, the game makers lose out.

"Now there is no tail. Literally, you will get most of your sales within three months of launch, which has created this really unhealthy extreme where you have to sell it really fast and then you have to do anything else to get money."

Considering such statements, it's probably no surprise that current rumors say the next PlayStation and Xbox won't support used games . If it's really this dangerous – and it appears to be, given the slumping state of the industry – maybe it's long past time to ditch the pre-owned idea before the "cannibalization" goes too far.

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bebestorm
bebestorm
9 years ago

I find his statement to be extreme.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

As extreme as you find them they are logical, make sense, and can be demonstrated by the almost total disappearance of the long tail – which I have commented on for about 4 years now.

TheAgingHipster
TheAgingHipster
9 years ago

In the words of Kevin Smith, you tell 'em, Steve Dave!

Yeah, I'm personally an opponent of the used game market. Support the companies that make the games you love, and they'll stick around long enough to make more. Buy used, and they don't see a penny. Simple math.

jaybiv
jaybiv
9 years ago

I'm sick of hearing developers belly ache over used game sales. The world is changing, so do they. The used game market is not hurting the industry. I've heard the tired argument of supporting the devs. I support them. I buy new and don't trade in. However, everyone doesn't have the disposable income that I have. I'm not going to hop on a high horse and pass judgement on folks who want to save a couple of beans.

You take away used sales and new game sales will drop. Some people will not take a chance om a game and it will sit on the shelf unsold. When onsumers know there is a market for a game they no longer want, they are open to buying more games. Maybe they should focus on controlling costs so they don't need as many sales to make a profit. Other industries are dealing with a changing economic reality, games should be no different.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

"You take away used sales and new game sales will drop."

This is illogical. If there is only one means of obtaining a game(new) every single used only buyer will not just abandon gaming. Some will suck it up and start buying new games. Therefore new game sales will increase as new sales will not only gain new customers but will likely retain most of the people who only buy games new.


Last edited by Jawknee on 3/28/2012 10:47:06 PM

Veitsknight
Veitsknight
9 years ago

Well, look at it this way. Not many would gamble on a game. Especially with the amount of $#!+ they are currently throwing at us at $60. Without the used games or video game rental business, many games would be passed over for the more popular one. I rented alot of games. Some bad, some good. And those I enjoyed, I bought new.

Blocking used games is a double-edged sword. While it may probably boosts sales, this will force people to buy new games and chances are that they will end up with a 3-4 hour piece of crap with boring-ass MP for $60. Hell, even that isn't worth $40. This might also make people more open to the idea of piracy. And they will find a way to fight piracy that will piss-off legit gamers to no end. Stupid firmware updates…


Last edited by Veitsknight on 3/29/2012 12:52:02 AM

jaybiv
jaybiv
9 years ago

Jawk, the used market is propping up new sales. If I know I can she'll a game back if I finish it in a few days or don't like it, I am more willing to take a chance on a game. If I have no recourse, I'm not buying a game that I'm on the fence. With the rumors that the next gen systems are going to choke off the used market and prevent gamers from lending games to friends, it look like Sony and MS want to recreate the video game crash of 1983. What a great way to celebrate a 30 year anniversary.

___________
___________
9 years ago

developers are not getting paid for their work, thats not hurting the industry?

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
9 years ago

To be honest Jawknee, I know I would buy fewer full priced games if I thought I couldn't trade in. D1P would be almost none existent for me.

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

Jawknee, just because there is only one option to buy a game new does not mean people who were buying them used are going to buy them new now. They might simply wait for a price drop, or just not buy the game because by the time the price drops there is another one they are interested in and they saved up for that one.

Its like when people get butthurt over how much there game gets pirated. Pirated copies DOES NOT EQUAL a lost sale. Most people who pirated werent going to buy it anyway and just want to try it out, OR they want to play it as a trial then they buy it. If anything piracy can increase sales because people will pay for quality products.

I agree with jaybiv and veitsknight. I take risks on games because I know I can get some sort of credit towards it if I trade it in. Also the total direction of the industry with its unethical DLC nonsense, I don't WANT to support the Publishers and corporations behind that. Which sadly means I'm going to be screwing the devs. If you think your money is going to the devs, well they get the money AFTER the shareholders, and THATS why studios get closed down.

Here is how they solve the problem. EVERY game needs a trial. A good meaty trial that shows off the features of the game. If they have a good game this shouldn't be an issue. Second, stop this annual 1-2 year development cycle just so your stupid shareholders can have a slightly bigger profit margin this quarterly. I honestly think games need a three year developement cycle. Not this two year, with planned DLC that makes a game cost double sometimes tripple its original price, and in the end gives you the game you deserved in the first place.

YES I say deserve, we deserve high quality games with lots of content, like FF7-9. Like MOST of the games from 2002-2005. Remember when you could unlock hidden costumes in RPGs from completing certain tasks? Now that certain task is shelling out 5 bucks on PSN.

Devs need to get their sh%^ together and start taking more time with their games. I am NOT saying that we don't get any quality games these days, we most certainly do. What I am saying is because of the corporate influence there is a lot of shovel ware being released, or games that are just sticking to the safe tried and true FPS war genre.

He also says if used games werent around prices would drop for new games….really? So why not just release games for cheaper now. Your going to be putting it into a more affordable price range for the masses, and you will probably end up profiting more in the long run.

Most games don't deserve to be more than 39.99, 49.99 for the really deep games with loads of content. There is a whole lot wrong with the industry and he decides to talk about one that really isn't a big deal.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

xenris: Holy Christ…now the developers are taking several years to make a game because of the SHAREHOLDERS? You can't honestly believe that…you can't.

And you're complaining about the quality of games now, too? And you're demanding play tests for every game? And you're demanding price drops for new games?

Wow, that's all very nice. Glad to see entitlement has reached new heights of completely blind insanity. No explanation as to how we'll be able to turn around the fact that the gaming industry is hemorrhaging money in many ways, but you know, so long as you're happy. 'rolling eyes'

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

"jawknee, just because there is only one option to buy a game new does not mean people who were buying them used are going to buy them new now."

Wrong. People's economic behavior says otherwise. Gamers aren't going to just give up their hobby because they can't save $5 anymore on used games. Some will, I doubt most would.

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

Ben your ridiculous. You missed all of the valid points.

How about the industry is the most PROFITABLE out of all the entertainment industries?

Yes games ARE rushed yes its because of profit.

Yes games get rushed out because of shareholders pushing the publishers to release the game so they can get their money. Not only that but you just posted an article on how publishers treat devs like crap. Any publicly traded company like EA or activision is doing whats in the best interest of their shareholders which is….PROFIT over everything.

You missed the part where I said we DO get quality games, but we also get annualized FPS nonsense. Games becoming more and more generic because they are all trying to copy the CoD formula. Again you wrote an article about the RE6 developer doing this. That is ruining games more than used sales, and the money and greed behind the publishers is whats driving it.

Demanding? Yeah I guess, if you have a good product why can't I take it for a test drive? Cars, books, and Art you can "test" why can't I test a video game? I wouldn't buy a car that the car company selling it said "its amazing, best in its class, great features" without first testing it for myself. If they said nope you can't why would you buy it?

Would you buy a book from chapters if they were all sealed and you had to rely on critic reviews, and a brief description on the back? No you skim through it maybe borrow it from your friend if they like it etc. Games should be treated NO differently but they are. You buy games hoping that they are going to be what they were promised. That is not fair for the consumer.

Asking for a trial mode for all games isn't demanding. Heck it would probably equal more sales in the long run. How many games have you not purchased because you were unsure of? I know dozens that I haven't. Not to mention you can't trust MOST game review sites. No I don't mean this one, I mean IGN and the other big players.

The guy writing the article said used games are causing games to be more expensive. Wouldn't it make more sense for the company to sell the game directly from their website and drop the game in price? That way less people use gamestop and the devs get more money because all the money is going to them not a middle man. Steam does this and they do it well.

Yes a lot of games do NOT deserve 60-70 bucks. Not even close, you know this everyone knows this. Some games deserve it, but that number is dwindling.

Glad to see you take personal jabs at me and my apparent insanity instead of addressing all of the valid points. As for the industry that is hemorrhaging. Says who, the publishers? Yeah trust them, the ones whos main drive is profit. Used games does NOT equal a sale, and neither do pirated games, everyone knows this. If they want to eliminate them, make games more affordable from the get go and fill them with more content. Not set them up with planned DLC simple as that.

It would make a lot of people happy, it would make the consumers happy, but not the shareholders which is why they should be taken out of the equation. Look at how well Steam does, and how many sales they have. They can do this because they aren't publicly traded and don't have boys in suits telling them to make more profit. Whats incredible is they still make an astounding amount of profit in an ethical way.

You like the word entitled dont you? Its not entitlement. Its calling out what is wrong with the industry and the bigger picture in hopes that positive change can happen. Nothing I have said NOTHING wouldn't have a positive effect.

Cheaper games? Probably would equal more sales, because its reaching a new income demographic. Game trials? Everyone wins, you try before you buy. Three year development cycles? More time to make the game that you envisioned. Everyone wins right?

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

True jawk, but they might wait for a price drop. I see personally more people wait for a price drop and save up their money, BUT when it drops in price they have saved up enough for a new title and they forget the older one.

I know people wouldn't give it up, but if games were cheaper people would buy more of them. Micro transaction games, farmville etc show that if something is cheap you will impulse buy it. If its a commitment your more likely to wait it out. Also some people spend 100 bucks a week on farmville without realizing it and when they can't actually afford it -_-

playSTATION
playSTATION
9 years ago

i agree with the statement above mine.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

IMO, bad and just mediocre games, along with SP mode games that only last 5 hours long, are hurting gaming sales much more than any used games ever will.

So, I PERSONALLY say to all those developers….

"Either bring us your "A" game, or STFU!!!!

Palpatations911
Palpatations911
9 years ago

I see nothing wrong with bad games or a 5 hour long game. Just don't release it and expect us to pay $59.99 like a Treyarch or Naughty Dog game where we actually get our "moneys worth"

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

"Naughty Dog game where we actually get our "moneys worth"

Nonsense. The shortest Uncharted is at least 9 hours long and when you consider playing it more than once as well as having the option for multiplayer, the game has the potential for countless hours of play time.

Don't exaggerate to make an asinine point.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Oooops!!!! I think I misread your comment. My bad. XD

Palpatations911
Palpatations911
9 years ago

No problem… But yeah my point is you don't hear treyarch or naughty dog or (insert triple a dev here) belly aching about used video game sales. no matter what anyones opinion is on those developers, we all know they're going to put out a polished product that will justify spending 60 dollars. Denis Dyack's Silicon Knights has not put out something worth spending 60 dollars on, so naturally his titles end up in the bargain bin at your local retailer


Last edited by Palpatations911 on 3/29/2012 1:31:13 AM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

Wrong again Palpatations, I will bet you every penny I own that if asked, Naughty Dog would ABSOLUTELY speak out against used game sales. ALL developers would.

They have no reason to because they have one of the few games that sell amazingly well. Uncharted is in the top 1% (or less) of games in terms of sales. If you honestly think that's common in this industry, you're out of your mind.

JackDillinger89
JackDillinger89
9 years ago

You hit it right on the spot friend. Look at all the games that sold well with hundreds of hours of gameplay, mw3, bf3, me3, skyrim, uncharted 3, mgs4, and many others. People want there moneys worth and if its a single player experience it better not be under 10 hours with dlc tacked on. Used games industry and games rental industry been around for decades and now there complaining? So their precious game dont sell like cod games they blame it on used games sales.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

Come on guys, what all these guys are saying makes perfect sense. We can't keep doing this. Sales continue to slide and maybe development costs wouldn't be such a problem if those developers actually made the money they deserve. And maybe publishers would be more likely to lend money and resources to talented designers if they too received money for their product.

This is just numbers. Saving a few bucks here and there isn't worth the cannibalization Dyack and Braden are referring to.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

I won't buy a used game unless I save a good bit of money, like $20, otherwise I always buy new.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I think they are doing pretty well with their DLC, online passes, and holdout content. Nobody is starving at Activision.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

No, but the NPD proves that ONLY the big boys aren't in any danger of starving. And that's never healthy.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Indeed Be, it's not healthy and is a sign of the problems to come. There will be increasing consolidation, marginalization of small players, and at some point the market will reach the tipping point and all hell will break loose. Unless things like online pass help restore the longer term economics of games that don't sell 2 million + copies in the first 2 weeks.

Axe99
Axe99
9 years ago

There was a study done a while ago that suggested that much of the money gained from trading in old games was used to buy new ones, so cutting out the new ones straight won't be the golden bullet some are thinking (ie, new game sales will drop). However, I suspect it is a better long-term solution, as it will give games a longer tail, which I think is healthier for the industry in the long run, as it'll support a wider range of genres. I doubt it'll mean a lot more money spent on games altogether, but I think we'll see more money spent on older games, and a bit less on a newer ones (think older game sales on Steam, for example).

jaybiv
jaybiv
9 years ago

Ben, the video game industry need to be shaken to its core. The salaries are not sustainable if they are crying about used sales. The devs need to make games cheaper if they want to make money. They are no different than any other company. Apple produces their products for peanuts in Asia. I love video games as much as the next gamer, but I will not proclaim the industry to be so special that they need to get rid of used sales. They need to adapt to the times instead of trying to fight for the status quo like the MPAA and RIAA.

There is zero proof that someone buying a game used would buy it new at full retail. The used market is the same for every other industry. Someone other than the original creator is making money from the transaction. The greed in the industry is one step closer to killing their golden goose.

slugga_status
slugga_status
9 years ago

@jaybiv

Agree with what you said..I personally just don't believe that used games are the problem. The problem I personally believe is the quality of the products we are given.

We are at a stage in gaming that mediocrity is unacceptable. We have all played stellar games from Uncharted to Killzone to God of War. You can't seriously put out a game such as Operation Raccoon City or Ninja Gaiden 3 and expect it to sale in large numbers. Nor can you expect it to sale "new" down the line w/o a price drop.

This is again a way to dictate how a consumer spends their money. If you give me a product worth $60 then there's no problem. Not saying it has to be a 10 on the scale. In the world today not many are willing to pay top dollar for a game that they're unsure of.

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

Highlander and Ben I am sorry but you don't realize the real issue here. You do realize that the video game industry is the most PROFITABLE right now for shareholders? Its even more profitable than the movie industry now.

This is because MOST of the money we spend on our games goes to the shareholders, who then put more into the game BUT then want more return profit from the Product. This is why the DLC nonsense has gotten out of hand. The online passes, its for PROFIT NOT for the developers. It helps the developers marginally but in reality its so the shareholders can increase their quarterly profit margin.

The BIG BOYS ARE indirectly starving the little players Ben. People buy CoD and shooters every year, and its marketed to high heavens from the big players, which drowns out the little devs. This has nothing to do with used game sales. This has to do with the corporate stranglehold thats occuring in the videogame industry.

People have proven you can make amazing games on a low budget with a team of 10 or less people. That you can profit without selling millions of units. When I say you I mean the actual developers who aren't under a corporate umbrella.

The industry is going to crash, and used game sales will probably be to blame because that will take the eyes off of the real problem. Many have stated and its true, a used game purchase == a new game sale. Just like Pirated games == a lost sale.

If they want to help out the industry, every game needs a MEATY trial that showcases the games unique features, as well as the first hour of the game. Make games that aren't 4 hours long and an hour trial times isn't that big of a deal.

Second Drop the price of videogames. You want more sales make the prices more appealing to people who are in school and cant afford almost 70 bucks per game. With half of the shovel ware we are getting and the tired and rehashed war shooters, those games should be no more than 39.99. Not to mention they probably have 60 bucks worth of DLC you can get with them, some non essential others more essential. Solo only games with a lot of content should be 44.99. Because of less replay value and you cant trade them int so once your done your probably done. Online multiplayer only games should be 29.99 because we know they will get map packs and other DLC stuff to prolong them. Single player and multiplayer games that are of high quality should be 49.99 only if both SP and MP are really quality and polished.

Seriously used games are NOT the issue with the industry. This guy isn't looking at the real problems.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Xenris. 1 – this isn't a blame the corporate greed for the problem situation. Believe it or not, they are not the problem. 2. consolidation of small into large is a symptom of the problem, not the cause.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

This is what happens when everyone thinks corporate greed is at the core of every issue. They sound very…selfish.

Sorry guys, but you're all dead wrong on this. I'll go with every last industry veteran I've heard speak on this issue, rather than those who are just annoyed at having to spend $5 more on a game.

wiley_kyotee
wiley_kyotee
9 years ago

@ Axe99: In regards to your first sentence, I did not interpret from the PS Orbis rumors that used games will be totally blocked. Just that the used game buyer will have to pay a fee to Sony to activate the game. Therefore gamers that purchase their games new will still have the opportunity to sell their games to the used market. Obviouly we won't know for sure until more details come out.

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

You can see the effects the corporations are having on the industry. They lose a bit of profit quarterly and then you hear of studios shutting down. I really can't believe that you don't understand the effects it is having.

They annualized games in order to make more profit. They cut corners and rush games out before they are done so they don't have to spend more because that means less profit.

I don't buy my games used, but the used game industry is NOT destroying the industry.

I'm done though as I'm just repeating myself.

Selfish are the shareholders, not the consumer. This is happening with the food industry too, but you probably drink code red mountain dew and eat hotpockets so you don't really care about the quality of food your eating. Corporate greed is trickling into everything, its clear as day.


Last edited by xenris on 3/29/2012 11:54:47 AM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

xenris, you've just completely invalidated your entire argument. Just vague nonsense about how all corporations are greedy and evil and all consumers are always in the right.

Go Occupy somewhere else. I'm sick of such mind-numbing, self-righteous, self-entitled ignorance.


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 3/29/2012 12:03:40 PM

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

Lol, never said they were evil. They are greedy though. You got upset about the whole ME3 ending and artistic integrity.

Do you know how many decisions were made for ME2 and ME3 that were 100% corporate influence? They added ammo going completely against the ME1 established lore so it would appeal to shooter fans. They got rid of a lot of the customization so it wouldn't alienate shooter fans. They sexed up Ashley and EDI in ME3. They added Pecs McBenchpress aka James Vega to look like CoD MW2 main character, and appeal to the mocho man beef cake loving crowd.

This stuff is CLEARLY corporate influence, why would bioware completely go against half of the lore they set up in ME1? Because they had too. It happens in movies and tv series too. They want bigger breasts on X character, or this person to be blonde because thats whats "in" right now.

I've invalidated my entire argument? How so? The forbes did an article on corporate influence in video games. You can see it all around man.

I guess when people see something wrong in the world or smell BS we should just shut up and deal with it. Boy if everyone was like you we would live in a pretty terrible world.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

No, everyone is like YOU and we DO live in a pretty terrible world.

Whiners and not workers. Maybe that should be your slogan.

jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
9 years ago

Xenris- Yes publically traded companies have a responsibility to shareholders, but you sound very paranoid in regards to how these companies operate. You should probably look into a company like Activision or EA's financial statements before you start spewing off information about how they run their business. And the video game industry isn't the most "profitable" in terms of overall income. I don't know where you came up with that.

You guys should read this article:

http://www.forbes(dot)com/sites/insertcoin/2012/03/29/the-coming-war-on-used-games/?partner=yahoofeed

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

Last I checked people were losing their jobs not quitting them. You know for a fact that I don't work now? Because I see a load of BS in the world around me that I won't stand makes me somehow unemployed?

If you must know I run a business I am a personal fitness trainer, martial arts instructor and gymnastics coach.

We live in a terrible world because of crap like this, corporate greed and profit driven industries, that not only end up putting people out of jobs but destroy our planet in the process.

Keep thinking its jimmy who buys used games though 😉

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

I agree that used games are bad for the industry. The problem is they are great for consumers. Making consoles used game prohibitive doesn't solve the bigger issue though. Yea it would eliminate used games, but it doesn't necessarily mean sales will go up. Unless they can lower prices and more quickly reduce the new price. I don't see that happening, especially with games like CoD.


Last edited by bigrailer19 on 3/28/2012 10:10:27 PM

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
9 years ago

If some big releases were immediately priced at £20 (with no resale available) then I think a lot of people would buy them new and bypass the used market.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Here's the problem with this idea, the same is true of every entertainment market, they get paid nothing for used movie sales and piracy and CD sales and MP3 sales that lead to copies etc, and other industries don't cannibalize themselves to death.

Also, there is no evidence that games would cost less if the used market was eliminated. I bet it wouldn't lower the retail costs a bit.

Killing the used game market could eliminate a big demographic of console purchasers altogether. PS4 could "win" the next generation if they let MS do this with Xbox3 but didn't do it themselves.


Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 3/28/2012 10:14:26 PM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

That's true, but the used movie or CD market has never come close to representing the percentage of sales used games count for in this industry. Furthermore, the relative price of movies and CDs compared to games is much cheaper, which means consumers aren't as concerned about the cost of a new movie or album.

But when it comes into the $60 range, more and more people are seeking to save money. Furthermore, there's a ton more turnover in gaming; a game could sell fifty times over but I doubt that ever happens with any movie. For the most part, movies and CDs and all that is kept.

Gamers have been buying and trading like it's a bodily function for decades. It's a very different situation.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Yeah gaming is a bigger investment but it would remain so even without used games.

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
9 years ago

Ben, don't want to put words in your mouth but from what you've said in this message the reason the market for movies and music is mostly dead is because they are so cheap per item in the first case SO if the games market followed the same past do you think that the same entropy of the used market would occur?

I'd like to think so.
I'd rather see the used market die a more natural death than be forced on us, by making games more and more affordable to buy new.

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

World you and others seem to get whats actually going on. Good on you.

Make games cheaper, more sales. Valve and Steam have proven this, you can see graphs on how they sell decade old games and sell half a million units by pricing it at 50-75% off.

Games are too expensive, and with DLC are borderline ridiculous. I agree they wont drop prices if they eliminate the used market. Why would they? They have a dominant position on the industry, which for all the big publishers is run by the shareholders who want what? PROFIT. There is no way the prices would drop, heck if they had this kind of monopoly on the prices whats stopping them from upping the price more? Believe it or not some people ARE addicted to games and would purchase regardless of prices.

Others would buy into the nonsense that it is inflation and that production costs just went up etc etc.

Half the reason why this generation of consoles is going to last so long is so that they can keep making profit, while not having to worry about new and higher hardware and software production costs.

I'll say it again, corporations are ruining the industry not used games. On a side note I do not purchase any games used unless they are old games no longer available new.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Then why hasn't it already?


Last edited by Jawknee on 3/28/2012 10:35:08 PM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Because the tipping point has not yet been reached. But when that tipping point hits, there will be a gaming crash that will make the last one look like a blip.

Palpatations911
Palpatations911
9 years ago

Why hasn't the industry faltered already? I'm 30 and used games have been available since before I was even born and the industry is still thriving!

Forget it, let's just prevent everyone from buying used goods. No more used houses, cars, DVD movies, Blu-Ray movies, tools, and clothing. Let's just have congress pass a bill that bans the sale of anything that a human has owned in the past and get Obama to sign it in to law in the United States and set a precedent!

This is typical corporate fear mongering and you should feel foolish if you believe anything this Denis Dyack guy spews from the hole in his face.

He's just PISSED because his piece of DUNG game "Too Human" was a steam powered hype train and his new game sales was derailed because of the used game industry. MAYBE if he created a game that wasn't absolutely horrible, he wouldn't have had people who were too timid to buy it new and ended up buying it used for half price a month after release! It was so cheap because no one wanted it brand new!

He was correct on the cannibal reference because his company will get eaten alive by other companies if he continues to make dung games.

EDIT: OK so his game wasn't horrible, but it was "blah". Average at best.


Last edited by Palpatations911 on 3/28/2012 10:42:48 PM