Currently available exclusives already make a strong case for the PlayStation 3's power; the Uncharted titles alone make it plain there is a definite gap in technological capability between Sony's machine and the Xbox 360 and Wii.

But while it seems plain that both Microsoft and Nintendo's machines are pretty well tapped out (looking down the road, I see no evidence to the contrary), the PS3 continues to impress with every passing year. In 2012 already, we've been seeing and hearing more about Naughty Dog's The Last Of Us , which not only looks downright amazing, but is likely something that absolutely cannot be done on the 360 (Naughty Dog was on record saying the Uncharted games couldn't really exist on Microsoft's console, either). They're also probably working on Uncharted 4 , although some wonder if that'll be available for the PS4…

Then there's Quantic Dream and that ridiculous tech demo , which is basically a year old and still running in real-time on the PS3. The studio has also said they didn't really push Sony's console very hard with Heavy Rain . We're also looking forward to see what other first-party studios have in store; Guerrilla Games is apparently working on an all-new IP along with Killzone 4 , and let's not forget about Polyphony Digital and the possibility of a new Gran Turismo at some point. I think the bottom line is that as this generation moves along, it becomes abundantly clear that while two of the consoles are basically done, one most certainly is not.

This is really good news for PS3 owners, too, because they can sort of feel a step ahead. New hardware is always an expensive proposition and if there's no backwards compatibility…well, it can feel like we're leaving too much behind to graduate to another level. But we may not see the PS4 for a while and you know…that's just fine by us. Obviously, the PS3 hasn't shown us its best work yet.

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Doppel
Doppel
9 years ago

There's a difference between a Sprint (Wii), a long jog (XB360) and a Marathon (PS3).

All involve moving your legs, except Marathons last so much longer, and end so much better.

Ok, that's a crap analogy.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

yeah cuz a sprint is more exciting and the Wii is just petering out like an old mail truck.

Doppel
Doppel
9 years ago

@WorldEndsWithMe

A sprint is exiting, as long as it lasts. Sprinting events last for a very short time (100m-400m) then everyone gets tired and then it's all over.

Like the Wii, really. Everyone is like "OOH LALA MOTION CONTROLS" back then, and then now, it's like… "Meh…"

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

Let's face it, Kinect was successful at giving MS a second win. However, the lack of quality games is dwindling on Kinect, with Dance Central being the only truly great game.

PS Move games though, after quite the drought, is finally picking up steam with Pixeljunk 4AM (Google it, trust me!) and Sorcery. Oh, and Resident Evil HD Chronicles on PSN. Might have to bust out the ol' Move again soon. 🙂

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

"Dance Central being the only truly great game."

Lol, if you're a 12 year old girl.

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

Whilst I agree on what you are saying fundamentally, there are still some great games on the Wii from what I have seen.

If I were a Wii owner I would have quite a nice Wii collection now…

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

What sucks about the Wii is that it has taken me six years to collect about 15 or so games. Nintendo dropped the ball in that regard. Wish there was at least one more Zelda for the Wii. Two was not enough.

I was just kidding by the way Dance…:P


Last edited by Jawknee on 3/15/2012 1:57:45 AM

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

Ha! Jawknee, you might love all those videos of 12 year old adults playing Dance Central on Youtube!

Wait… that sounded weird…

All I know is both Just Dance 3 and Dance Central were the biggest selling games for Kinect (except the packaged in Kinect Adventures)

As for the Wii, yeah, it could've used a few more games, but maybe not Mario or Zelda, I feel there was the right amount of games for fans and to prevent oversaturation of Nintendo's iconic franchises. 2 Zeldas, 3 platform Marios, 1 Mario Kart, 1 Super Smash Bros, 2 Metroid's (4 if you include the Prime Trilogy redone for Wii) and all the Mario Spinoffs like Golf, Tennis, Party, etc.

The Wii really needed that popular multiplats from PS3 and 360 though, like Batman, Assassin's Creed, Skyrim, Dead Space (though Extraction was pretty coolo on Wii), so I'm hoping the Wii U's use of HD and a proper old-school controller with 2 sticks (or circle pads), 4 shoulder buttons, 4 face buttons and a D pad will help it secure more multiplats in the future.

Either way, next gen really belongs to Nintendo and Sony. Xbox Live really helped 360 get a jump with social gaming. Take that away and all that is left is Halo and Kinect, which does not interest me.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Kinect proved one thing. It showed that the gullible American public will believe any old bullshot that Microsoft shovels out the door, no matter how badly MS has shafted them. I mean seriously after the fiasco that was the 360, MS got a free shot again with Kinect. Despite an abject lack of decent content and dire games like that horrible Harry Potter thing for Kinect, the less than smart American gaming market continues to lap it up like mana from heaven. :/

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

@Highlander

I'm glad I am not one of them. 😛 I can see through the bs. xD

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Even something like the Move, which has amazing tech in it, I don't use much… there's just not much good for it. I -LOVED- sports champions! I know it wasn't a AAA game, but it used the Move well. I hope they make another one. I really liked the volleyball part.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I find myself more and more these days caring less about raw power and graphics and more about fun. Take MGS3DS for example. The graphics are good, not great, even last gen perhaps, but I am having a lot more fun with that game than I have had in a good while with anything one the PS3. Same with Skyward Sword. The game is pretty in it's own right, it would be nice if it was in HD but the graphics aren't what made that game my favorite game of this generation. It was how much fun it was. I don't know…maybe I am getting old but I really am finding myself looking forward to Nintendo's offerings more and more these days even though they are behind Sony and MS tech wise.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Don't worry, Jawknee, I got your back. I'm excited for the Wii U as well. While I love new powerful hardware I don't think I'd take it at the expense of gamer's games. Games that aren't afraid to make you work for your entertainment. And not just mindless button presses in relation to onscreen happenings.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Indeed. It's not that I don't like new powerful hardware. Everyone here should know I can be a graphics whore. I'm just finding more good old fashioned fun in games like Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Skyward Sword, etc. Good HD graphics are great as well as killer A.I., physics, etc…But sometimes I just want to chill out and have some cartoony fun. Nintendo does that better than anyone else.


Last edited by Jawknee on 3/14/2012 11:40:17 PM

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

I agree with you Jawk… Its not only about power… console cycles good be well longer than they are, and if they were, but the story telling and overall experiences got better and better, than I wouldn't mind sticking with current hardware for much longer…

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

Fox hounder
Fox hounder
9 years ago

I'm kind of in the same boat with you guys.

Back when i first got my PS3, i remember playing MGS4 for the first time (it was my first PS3 game), and i remember being blown away by the graphics.

Now obviously graphics have improved a great deal since then, but i just don't find myself being "blown away" anymore. For me now its all about the fun factor.

And to be honest, i am more anxious to get my hands on a 3DS and PS Vita than a PS4 or whatever. Call me crazy, but i like my entertainment in the palm of my hand.


Last edited by Fox hounder on 3/15/2012 5:29:21 AM

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Only thing I don't get is "work for my entertainment". I don't get it. I exercise and work in my recreation. But for entertainment, I sit down and expect to be entertained. I'm not working for it. That monkey's gotta dance and work to entertain ME.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Work as in work my mind more than it being passively engaged with knee-jerk reactions that don't deliniate much in consequence. I want to be calculating something more than surface level stuff. It's a big reason why fighters are my favorite game type.
In a match it's constant logic vs logic when online. It's both a joy to watch but also the most fullfilling to enjoy as my mind is doing the work. It's anything but passive. Hence the reason why I don't want sound, more detailed, game playing principles swept under the rug for big budget flair and rigged explosions.
The same holds true for the current RPG im playing, lost odyssey. I like to tinker and fiddle with my characters atrributes in stat screens. It requires methodical brain work. Also many of the scripted story parts are intelligently designed, requiring deeper thought.

Neo_Aeon666
Neo_Aeon666
9 years ago

You could have just put it back in your PS2 and played it on the big screen 😛 (Snake Eater)

And well I guess the rest is a matter of opinion. I enjoyed Hyperdimensionnal Witch Neptunia on PS3 more than Skyward lol. Smash (Wii) will remain my favorite fighting game ever with Dead or Alive (5th one coming soooon :D)

But you know I want to see your impression of the PSVita once you get it. Seriously I did not touch my 3DS ever since I got it. I might take it back up for kid Icarus but features/power/game quality wise, the Vita really excels.

ZettaiSeigi
ZettaiSeigi
9 years ago

It really is interesting as to when Sony plans to reveal and release the PS4. Personally, I'm still very happy with my PS3. I know that Sony would not want to release their next console a year behind the next one from Microsoft, but the exclusive games keep showing that there's still a lot of life left on the PS3.

Whatever Sony is planning to do will be quite a gamble but I am hoping that it would be for the best for them and, more importantly, to us gamers.

daus26
daus26
9 years ago

My hope is that if they do release the PS4 early, that it would run on the cell processor. That way, I assume it would be easier to make both versions (PS3 and PS4) of a game so that those that are not ready to move on to the PS4, can get the PS3 version.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
9 years ago

I bet we all no by now, that the PS4 will be one heck of a machine when it comes out. I'm glad I gave the Playstation a try when I received it for a present in the late 90's, I knew before hand that Sony already makes top notch electronics. Also big ups to Nintendo cause that's when it all started for me.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 3/14/2012 9:57:26 PM

bentl78
bentl78
9 years ago

I am actually in support of the ps4 to come out sooner.
I think although they can still get more power out of the ps3…
if sony was late to the game again vs microsoft.. it might cost them a lot.. just like this gen.. coming out with a console one full year after.. is a big disadvantage..

daus26
daus26
9 years ago

That is actually a big deal. I just have this fear that if Sony goes through another huge financial lost like they have with the PS3, we may be seeing the end of Playstation!!

Sure, it may not sound likely now, but competition is everything. If competition demands the PS4 to release early, then it needs to, whether or not gamers are ready or not. And if the PS3 still has room to improve, then simply continue its support.

We have to realize that businesses do what's best for THEM, not us, the consumers.


Last edited by daus26 on 3/15/2012 11:58:13 AM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

343 said that after Halo 4 there's absolutely nothing left in the 360.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

I thought there was nothing left in the 360 after Gears of War 2? Heck, even Epic Games said they didn't change the engine much for Gears 3 cos the 360 was already maxed out!

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Some of the best looking games ever made for 360 released last year.

Crysis 2, Rage, Arkham City, and Gears 3

So really, in it's sixth year it hasn't showed it's lagging.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Halo 4 isn't out is it? I've lost track…

Arkhem City does look pretty…especially for an Unreal game. I may buy it again for Wii U depending on what they do with the controller.

daus26
daus26
9 years ago

Even if the 360 is maxed out, clearly it would coincide with the PS3 just fine in the long run IF neither MS or Sony decide to go next gen soon, since multi-plat games really make up for their lost of appeal to the PS3's exclusives. Heck, both are probably good enough to run with the Wii U next gen in terms of visual at least. MS just wants to get that early lead again.

I think MS's fear is that Sony's exclusives may eventually be over powering to the point that the typical/casual consumers will start realizing which is really the more powerful system, thus losing appeal. Another is the appeal of developers with a "bigger" vision, which is probably why third parties like Media Molecule and Quantic Dreams debuted their first game on the PS3 ONLY. To get that appeal back, they're gonna need a new console. Plus DVD is really, really outdated.


Last edited by daus26 on 3/15/2012 12:11:42 PM

PC_Max
PC_Max
9 years ago

Well, I would have to say, being first out is not necessarily saying you are going to be the winner. Looking back on the history of the PS3, the tough sell was its price and Sony determined to expose people to Blu-Ray. Regardless of the hardware and what you were getting for the price… the price was the big leap for people when comparing it to the cheaper Wii and 360. Also, it was Sony paying out to Devs for exclusivity of a game and/or DLC content. Microsoft, to sage guard itself so it was not at the bottom threw out money to get devs on side. It worked, and Sony did not do it. It relied on its reputation as well as its loyal devs. Advertising was minimal in comparison to the Wii and 360 in the first few years or release.

So…. my only thought is Sony should think about price as well as hardware when it comes to people, especially in North America. Its economics. And generously pay for exclusivity of content, even if its only for a month or a year.

Up to them, they now the industry better than any of us.

daus26
daus26
9 years ago

Many of us can agree that the PS3 was priced really high back in the day, but can't we also agree that it was a noteworthy risk by Sony? If they have gone the simple route, there would be no blu-ray, and no cell processor. Imagine that. That said, I'm glad it was as high as it was, because as said above, it's a marathon, so it's not meant to be an instant appeal, even if they did hoped for it.

But yeah, now that they have solidified blu-ray or whatever huge storage discs they plan to have in the future, and the cell processor, then there's no need to invest in anything that's dramatically new next generation that would spike up the PS4's launch price too much.


Last edited by daus26 on 3/15/2012 12:18:22 PM

firesoul453
firesoul453
9 years ago

Makes sense, the cell processor is a beast.
but power doesn't equal great games…

However the quality of ps3 games are just amazing!

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

You can't get much wider then the Grand Canyon. I am so looking forward to PS3 games in three years.

The only thing Xbox has over the PS3 is people who are gullible enough to pay for Live.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

Live has party chat, PSN doesn't. And some people think online play is smoother and easier to do on 360 as well, and therefore delude themselves that it's worth the cost.

Really, it's just the cross game chat. That, and many of my friends only play online with their 360's.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Party chat is pointless given that when you're playing a game you're supposed to be playing the game instead of chatting with friends who are playing completely different games unless of course you have the attention span of a gnat.

firesoul453
firesoul453
9 years ago

I've never been a situation where party chat is something I wanted to use when not playing the same game as my friends.

But xbox live does have some things psn doesn't, like uhhhhh… cloud storage for save, oh wait psn had that first, but either way you gotta pay for it….

slugga_status
slugga_status
9 years ago

cross game chat makes communication with your friends smoother. You don't have to access the xmb, go to a message, and reply..You get the invite and you can talk to your friend. It's actually a good feature…but that's about it…

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

I thought Gears 2 had maxed out the 360, and The Last Story along with Xenoblade Chronicles have maxed out the Wii.

Uncharted 3 certainly pushed the PS3 (especially that Southern France rainforest level, holy crap! That was a beautiful level!) but there's still room left in the PS3 for it to be pushed further.

Honestly, I would be more than happy if the PS4 was nothing more than a PS3 with four times or 8 times as much RAM and a new graphics card. Same Cell processor, same controllers, same blu-ray disc drive, just faster and better.

If Sony want to innovate, I'm thinking along the lines of a rear touch pad for the Dual Shock 4 and an in-built microphone for in-game voice commands and chatting with friends, no need for headsets. What do you guys think?

CheddarClyde
CheddarClyde
9 years ago

Will my game library closing in on 70 games, I really do hope they use an upgraded version of the Cell processor since it would increase the likelihood of the PS4 being backwards-compatible.

daus26
daus26
9 years ago

I gotta agree with both of ya. A simple dual or quad core PC cpu can have next gen power in gaming by simply upgrading the RAM and graphics card. I imagine a state of the art cpu like the cell can go really far with a better graphics card and much more ram… really, really far.


Last edited by daus26 on 3/15/2012 12:25:48 PM

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

Just as the story always went…..
The slow & steady tortoise will again beat the Hare to the finish line.

And this time, a certain rabbits foot will be his trophy.

CrusaderForever
CrusaderForever
9 years ago

PS3 is not done yet. Naughty Dog is proving that. I hope we have until at least holiday 2013.

On a side note if you haven't played Uncharted Golden Abyss, you should, now. It's a wonderful game. So many Vita specific things you can do that enrich the experience. So far I am addicted to the treasure hunting, charcoal rubbings, dusting off artifacts and inspecting artifacts by completely turning them in all angles using the back touch screen. Well done Bend, this is a very memorable game!

CheddarClyde
CheddarClyde
9 years ago

I have to agree with the fact that the PS3 still have plenty of life left in her. With the PS2, you knew that developers had (for the most part) reached the limits of what they could do with the system. Things like HD graphics, DLC and the kind of online multiplayer we take for granted today just couldn't be done on that system. Hence the need for the PS3.

With that said, this puts Sony in an interesting position. They currently have a console that more than likely will be able to hold its own graphically against the Wii-U. The graphic fidelity of the next X-Box however, may be what will force Sony to roll out the PS4. So, do they drop it at the same time as the new X-Box to prevent themselves from having to play catch up again or do they take a chance and release a new system when the PS3 does start to show its age? The drawbacks would be releasing a new console before devs and gamers are ready (something that will become costly to both parties) vs. seeing the PS3 in the position of the Wii regarding 3rd party support.

Then again, the PS2 was the least powerful console last gen, and they got plenty of support.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

It really is a pickle Sony is in.

I think Sony have already designed a cost-effective and developer-friendly console, with some small changes to make it work better and avoid criticism like the PS3 had at launch.

Sony could just be sitting on this new console until MS makes the announcement, or are about to release their new Xbox.

I felt the same thing with Move and Kinect! Sony had this great motion control device, but sat on it until MS revealed Kinect (or Project Natal as it was known at the time) then Sony came out guns blazing!!

I just can't help but feel that USA has this distinct dislike for Sony and anything Playstation related for no reason whatsoever!! PS3 has better games, free online play… heck, they even gave out free games to PSN members when the service went down last year!

Or maybe 360 managed to tap into that American gun-loving market where triggers on a controller are the only thing they understand. (Just a thought people, no need to create an argument!)

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

DanceMachine, it's far simpler than that, the English speaking gaming world (aka NA, EU and Australia) is populated but a disturbingly large number of extremely gullible people who will believe anything that MS says, and at the same time believe that Sony is nothing more than a corporate raider that wants to eat their children, sell their wives into slavery and do naughty things to their pets.

jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
9 years ago

I have a little more faith in humanity than you guys. Xbox 360 was just marketed very, very well. They exploited Halo when it became popular. Then Gears of War. They exploited Call of Duty to the point where you'd think it was exclusive to just Xbox based on the advertisements and commercials.

Sony releases far more exclusives, and I love them for it, but ultimately that causes their games to eat into one anothers sales.

I also think Sony's PS3 pricing this generation has lost them quite a bit of market share. Last generation the casual gamer's go-to was the PS2…namely because it was released first and was almost always cheaper than the competition. This generation the 360 was released first, and always cheaper than the PS3, its main competitor (not counting Wii which has been ridiculously cheap for awhile now).

gray_eagle
gray_eagle
9 years ago

the only reason sony is behind that ms likes throwing money around
and paying off devs.

this might be off topic,
an ad i seen starts off with a short clip of me3. after the short clip,
a xbox 360 and kinec is shown and you hear a voice say, better with kinec.

how is ms alowed to get away with that? the ad made it look like me3 was
a xbox 360 exclusive.

CheddarClyde
CheddarClyde
9 years ago

The same way they were/are allowed to have the XBox branding show up at the end of Call of Duty ads. Microsoft paid EA for their branding to show up exclusively on Mass Effect 3 ads (and Activision for the same reasons) even though both games are multiplat. Sony does the same thing for Battlefield 3 and a number of other games as well.

___________
___________
9 years ago

companies have been doing that for years!
just like $ony does it with fifa and battlefield 3.
at least what M$ says is true though.
it is better on the 360, kinect intergration works really well and the 360 version does not have tearing and frame rate issues.

___________
___________
9 years ago

biggest problem M$ has with the 360 is all the developers are using old engines.
look at halo 4, its suppose to be the best looking 360 game ever made!
and its running on a modified reach engine, which was a modified version of the halo 3 engine, which was a modified version of the halo engine.
not 1 360 developer has gone and created a new engine to bring out the systems shine.
almost every ps3 exclusive has, and thats why there shining allot more.
only so much you can get out of a decade old engine!
will be interesting to see what the witcher 2 can bring out of it.
a brand new engine, but that engine was made for PC not consoles so im not expecting too much out of it.
only time will tell, only 3 weeks to go.