Well, this ought to incite plenty of discussion. Thing is, there are multiple ways to interpret the quote in question…

Recently, we heard a rumor that both God of War IV and Syphon Filter 4 will be officially announced next month. Last year, various sources reported snippets of information concerning GoWIV, and this included the information that multiplayer was imminent. But what does the original creator of the franchise think about the fourth installment?

David Jaffe and his new studio, Eat Sleep Play, are finishing up work on Twisted Metal and as Jaffe is no longer part of Sony Santa Monica, he won't have any say in how God of War IV turns out (at least, we don't think he will). At any rate, when asked what he'd like to see in the next entry, Jaffe replied on Twitter :

"@PSNztstyle Zelda formula, multiple mythologies, more nuance to Kratos."

There are plenty of ways to make a game better, even if it's as amazing as God of War III . Improvements, upgrades, and enhancements can be made and if Jaffe had his way, he'd want a more Zelda -like formula and perhaps a heavier emphasis on the character of Kratos. But what does that Zelda comment really mean…?

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Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Yep, everyone can hate me for it, but I'd love that. This is one of the reasons I like GOW2 so much. There were moments where the game felt nearly adventure-like in design (it was short lived, but I felt it). I don't really hold the GoW series in high esteem for it's combat, but I do love Greek mythological settings, and GoW has some awesome locals to visit. Heck, I'd love a quality RPG in such a setting. But anyway, I think with GoW's strong visual presentation and well realized vibe, a full fledged adventure could be well suited for it. I'm game.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

2 was definitely the best in the series, straight up action has it's place but action adventure needs a comeback big time. They could still have epic bosses and plenty of gore and great locales, just open the friggin environments into a coherent integrated world.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Maybe he just means actual dungeons, more intricate puzzles and less linear in nature.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I'd be soooo down with that.

inkme101
inkme101
9 years ago

yes, less linear. not necessarily a sandbox but a more open world feel would be great!

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

Probably, but Jawknee I really like it as it is. Could GoW still be "serious" if it had Zelda like overtones immersed within its design?

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

johnld
johnld
9 years ago

yeah, "screw you zeus, you took everything away from me. once i go to this other place to get this thing, then you'll really see me pissed". i dont know about you guys but the way god of war has been, if it stayed the same and implement zelda like dungeons, i'll probably lose interest in the story. previous god of war games pretty much had a straight forward story.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

GOW already has a weak Zelda thing going on (Get this weapon to pass this area, move this block over there, solve this little puzzle), it would just be stronger and less linear.

bebestorm
bebestorm
9 years ago

Perhaps Jaffe and SM could collaborate on the next God Of War. It would be good to see the game expand.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Totally agree with this, the puzzles and puzzle rooms and creative item implementation in Darksiders make similar concepts in GOWIII look pathetic.

Superman915
Superman915
9 years ago

motion controls?

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

nevarrrrr

sticklife
sticklife
9 years ago

I'm sure about 4, but something I think would be cool would be a top down 16bit action RPG. Maybe for the vita. I think people may get upset if they change the main series too much but zelda style on a handheld would be cool.


Last edited by sticklife on 1/25/2012 11:46:36 PM

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

Jaffe is always talking about thing he'd want and what he'd do… I'd like to see him just do it! That's a good thing, because I know he could! He's got a great resume… But he's never gonna see stuff like this unless he does it. It doesn't have to be in GoW4 either, go out create a good action adventure with those Zelda elements. id much rather see something like that in a game he created, rather than in GoW4.

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

I think he means a cel-shaded art style, like Wind Waker.

;P

___________
___________
9 years ago

this is actually a series i really want to be changed!
that would be a perfect refresh for the series!
oh how i wish SM could go back to the GOW1 team of jaffe healing the whole thing with cory at his side and stig as lead level designer.

johnld
johnld
9 years ago

i dont think god of war mixes with zelda formula. it would slow the games pace alot. when i played all 3 god of war games straight, i was just some angry [email protected]$$ steam rolling through everything. that mentality along with its gameplay worked really well. you get new weapons as you progress through the game.

they way zelda is, you know where you need to go but need to slow the game's pace by going out to collect things to make you versatile/powerful. and from playing previous zelda games, the game pace is slow to moderate which works with zelda games.

i guess whether it works or not depends on the games overall theme. god of war was always a fast paced game, granted not devil may cry fast. the story is pretty straight forward too. these guys screwed me over so i'm hunting zeus down and taking out whoever gets in my way. i wouldnt want a scenario that goes, "wait, let me go in a completely opposite direction to get this weapon, i'll be back later" kind of thing. at least in a god of war game.

my suggestion to him is just make a game with the zelda formula. rebooting/changing established franchises just seems like a bastardization of what they built it to be.


Last edited by johnld on 1/26/2012 4:09:59 AM

DarthNemesis
DarthNemesis
9 years ago

I would not mind this and was hoping that gow3 was going to be this way.either way gow is a great franchise but changes are always necessary to keep it great.on the flip side.I would love to see zelda adapt a more narrative style of story telling that actually has a character with a personality,a voice amd emotions as well as more cinematic gameplay

SoulController
SoulController
9 years ago

I agree 1000% Its time for GOW to evolve

telly
telly
9 years ago

Without a doubt, yes. III was great but definitely felt a bit too familiar gameplay wise. We've had three great action GOWs, let's see it expand into more of an adventure.

I like his comment about different mythologies — perhaps Kratos travels between Greek, Norse and Egyptian worlds of myths, fights/interacts with all of those gods and mythical beings? THAT would be friggin' sweet, especially if it's an almost Zelda-level of exploration.

trumpetmon65
trumpetmon65
9 years ago

1. there's a good chance that he said that to piss people off, or just to joke around with them.

2. If it's him going for it, I'm sure it will still be quite different.

3. a zelda-esque puzzle three way would be hilarious. Especially with the chime at the end when you find the "secret"

Ignitus
Ignitus
9 years ago

That sounds great to me.

gungrave
gungrave
9 years ago

Jaffe hasn't done anything good in years, i'm surprised he still gets a lot of media attention.

DjStiv3
DjStiv3
9 years ago

its pretty obvious he thinks it would be better with a more rpg game feel in the sense of leveling up and stuff…although it seems kinda outrageous.. he does have apoint.. it would definately deepen the gameplay

Lairfan
Lairfan
9 years ago

I agree with multiple mythologies. That would be cool, and at this point is kind of needed since Kratos has basically taken out all of Greek mythology by the end of III.

As far as more nuance to Kratos, his story is done. There should be no more Kratos as the main character as far as I'm concerned. Get a new guy, and as long as he's got a strong reason to fight and looks cool, I'll go with it.

And as far as the Zelda thing is concerned, I guess he's trying to say he wants more depth, which isn't a bad thing. But to be honest, Zelda's gameplay wouldn't fit very well with GoW's pace, so I don't think I'd agree with him on that point either.

karneli lll
karneli lll
9 years ago

Honestly, i think God of war is over, he killed the gods, if he goes after the norse or egyptian gods next i believe it will be a train wreck.Maybe if we follow a new demi god who is supposed to kill Kratos, that would make an epic final boss battle.

Im sad everyone only seems to care about the god of war sequel. What about Syphon filter, i loved it on the ps1


Last edited by karneli lll on 1/26/2012 5:46:45 PM

saintaqua
saintaqua
9 years ago

I've never been a Zelda fan, but that sounds like it could work out good.