John-ShepardWhen Capcom announced Resident Evil 6 , they provided anticipatory gamers with a debut trailer that clocked in at over three minutes.
We saw a lot in those three minutes, but the RE faithful seem to be split: one side says the developer is returning to their roots by giving us a true-blue survival/horror game, and this theory was reinforced when Capcom said one of the key concepts of RE6 was "the fear that lies ahead." The implications are obvious, right? Besides, we're already getting the action-oriented Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City from SOCOM developer Slant Six, so Capcom would give us a traditional horror experience with RE6. Yes?
Well…maybe not. The other half of the RE faithful saw way too much action in that trailer, and recent comments from the publisher haven't been encouraging. According to MCV , Capcom UK head of marketing, Dave Turner, said it only "makes sense" for them to "more fully" explore the action element with the RE franchise. And why? Because RE5 had the most action of any entry in the series, and it turned out to be the biggest seller in franchise history. Oh, and one more thing:
"The dream would be that the millions of Call of Duty fans that are enjoying these fast-paced online games are attracted to this Resident Evil."
No. Not again. Please. Another Japanese company mentions Call of Duty and tries to turn a beloved franchise into something it shouldn't be…? Perhaps we shouldn't be too negative; that trailer did seem plenty bad-ass, and maybe it'll be an engaging mix of survival/horror and third-person action. We're allowed to be optimistic, right?
Related Game(s): Resident Evil 6
uh oh..
Sorry guys,
We can't save this one.
Time of death, sometime in 2010.
Name, Japanese Gaming Industry.
What a shame, this kind of loss of life is the kind that wants to make me leave this industry.
haha if by sometime in 2010 you mean RE5's release it was march 13th i remember it was friday the 13th
I actually didn't pick up RE5 for this very reason. I get the fact that everyone would like their game to sell like a COD title, but not every game needs to be an action oriented shooter. I really like survival horror, but it has been slim pickens lately. With AMY turning out so bad, I really hope the next Silent Hill turns out to be worth playing.
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I think Resident Evil will be fine. There were still plenty of 'jump spots' in 5. Have you ever really played an actual RE game that was part of the canon & wasn't good? I even liked Zero & Code Veronica. I even thought Code Veronica had a killer story compared to the others (maybe tying with 2). *SPOILER??* To know that Wesker won't be around kinda saddens me, but I'll live. Looks great and I'm sure the scares won't be too scarce.
Have you ever really played a RE game that was part of the main canon that was not any good?
Yes, it was called Resident Evil 5.
I guess you don't stand alone, but the game holds an 87 on gamerankings which means I don't either. I for one loved 5 and only had a problem with the tank controls which look to have disappeared in 6. So what did you not like about 5? Not trying to start an argument, just curious. I respect opinions.
I did not check out gamerankings but I did look at metacritic to check the scores of past RE games. RE4 has a 96 rating while RE5 has an 84. That's a pretty big drop off. RE3 Nemesis has a 92 metacritic score btw. It definitely looks like RE5 scored the lowest out of the main RE titles.
I'm not saying RE5 was a terrible game but I do think it was a bad Resident Evil game for the most part. RE4 had plenty of action but it at least got the atmosphere and setting right. It started off in a desolate woods which led to that creepy village. It was daylight but it still managed to deliver some genuine Resident Evil tension and atmoshpere.
What did I not like about RE5? Where do I start? I pretty much disliked allmost everything about it. The atmosphere, the setting, the ROIDED up Chris Redfield, the medicore boss fights, the poorly implemented cover system, enemy design, and finally the co-op dynamic. Too much action and not enough horror, It played more like a bad Gears of War clone. I think the co-op dynamic really hurt RE5 as a survival horror game.
Anyways, I'm going to ignore the marketing spokesperson and concentrate on "the fear that lies ahead" concept that Capcom talked about at their RE anniversary event.
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Fair enough. To each their own I guess. Just wanted to know. Thanks for sharing tho. Had RE4 for Gamecube & loved every minute of it. I enjoyed the co-op on 5 since my Playstation buds and I are always looking for good co-op games. Harder to find on PS3 (especially split screen). Dunno what the hell Capcom was thinking with their split screen on Lost Planet 2. That was horrific. I do believe that from 1 to 5 they actually told a story that came full circle and didn't dissapoint me in the end. Better than most games or movies which decide to 'revamp' or screw up their plots over the course of sequels.
I enjoyed coop in RE5 too, fatelementality. So you're not alone. 😉
I even found it to be a bit scary at times, even though I played the entire game in coop. But I admit I get *easily* scared.
Hmmmm, it's sounding more & more like LV was pretty much dead-on about the trailer.
I wish I was wrong 🙁
*Dies*
*Rest of world dies*
fatelementality's comment needs at least 1000 thumbs-up.
Somebody shut this fool up. He's not doing Capcom any favors at all. There were many who willing to give Capcom the benefit of the doubt when it came to the action heavy trailer because they thought it was arrainged for maximum impact much like a Hollywood movie trailer.
Yes RE5 was the best selling blah, blah. Many of those sales were hype sales. RE5 damaged the franchise because it was too centered on action and because it lost all atmosphere and tension the Resident Evil series has been known for. If Capcom gives us another RE5 type game they might as well kiss the Resident Evil fanbase goodbye. They will end up with neither the COD crowd or traditional RE fans imho.
Having said all this…it's just some tool from the UK marketing team that is speaking here. I'd be far more concerned if this was coming from the Japanese game designers themselves. I want to know what they are saying.
Last edited by Excelsior1 on 1/20/2012 10:25:17 PM
You're blinded to the reality of the situation. So far we have a trailer for the game that depicts an action extravaganza and now a person that represents Capcom confirming what any sane person has assumed about RE6.
hehe. It's definitely possible I am blinded here. I thought I felt some horror vibes coming from Leon's sections at least but I could just be seeing what I want to see.
I'll hold my judgement until I actually play it. Despite its shortcomings, I really enjoyed RE5, largely due to the co-op. It's quite obvious that the series has changed since the earlier entries, and I've given up any hope that they'd return to that style, so I say why not try something new? A more fast-paced action could actually bring on the feelings of desperation that were missing from 5. (not that I'm encouraging the Call of Duty comment, as far as I'm concerned, no developer should try to emulate that unless they're making an online FPS.)
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Even though I don't mind the action in newer RE titles (although I long for actual horror) the CoD comment just killed me on the inside a little bit. When even long time established franchises are trying to mimic something that they're not, you know there's something wrong with developer mentality. I'm just waiting for a line in the game:
"It's my call of duty to slay zombies!"
If you already have an action spinoff then whats the point?
Because this one will be better. 🙂
Yeah this is one thing that I could've gone without hearing. I'm still super pumped about the game but PLEASE forget the whole "lets try to be like call of duty because they sell millions…"
The whole Call of Duty movement is for the casual gamers…unless RE goes completely online mindless multiplayer shooter they will never reach Call of Duty status…
I had my doubts when I saw the trailer. Seems my doubts were spot on.
Meh, Resident Evil is just an action game now. But atleast it's fun in that respect. I played the 3DS demo for that other one and it seems like it will be fun enough. That's how I feel about RE6. No longer horror, sucks, but it's still playable.
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I agree is just another genre, but is very playable and fun, I'm okay with that, this isn't the golden era of the genres I like so well at least I can adjust until what I like becomes mainstream again.
Don't do it Jawk.
I've never played a RE game b4 but Despite what ppl are saying that trailer did in fact look plenty badass btw…..
And b4 anyone says anything NO I DO NOT PLAY CALL OF DUTY, because I don't play fps games..
Just thought I'd put that out there lol
"I've never played a RE game b4"
…end of discussion.
CAPCOM is ranking on my "J-Developer derail list" as No.2, right behind Squeeenix…. which will all soon be washed out and joined the westernization rotten stream….
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I gotta say, as someone who has played all of the RE games from Zero to 5, I'm really excited for what is instore. That being said, I can understand why a lot of the previous games are put off by this new direction the franchise has decided to take.
Though I can sorta see why adding more action to the next installment, 6, can be a good thing but not for the reason of winning over COD fans (myself having played them). I mean the entire plot of the series itself has sort of been escalating as the whole Resident Evil Universe gets closer to a world ravaged by Bio-terrorism. I personally think it would be hard to demonstrate that sort of level of chaos depicted in the trailer (the President dead, attacks in what seems to be a possibe chinese metropolis) through the previous system of gameplay that was given.
Regardless, I'm just glad to see they haven't forgotten their older characters (Sherry Burkin is apparently the blonde woman, not Ashley) and I hope they explain just what happened to Rebecca & Billy after the Raccoon City Incident.
Sherry Burkin? Well, that's possible I suppose, but I'd almost bet my life that is the same voice actress that played Ashley.
Here's the article I got the information from just to clarify, it is a rumour however and should be treated as such.
http://www.relyonhorror.com/latest-news/resident-evil-news/sherry-birkin-is-back-in-resident-evil-6/
RE6 will be amazing.. I have faith in Capcom. Resident Evil is one of my favorite game franchises, so this game is an automatic day one purchase for me.. ^_^
I'd be willing to forgive all the action and them wanting to be CoD is they did one tiny little thing.
Make us conserve ammo, RE4 and 5 sucked in that sense as it took away that feeling like idk where my next bullet will come from.
Blegh! The trailer sucked and more than likely the game will follow suit and suck even worse. This series has gone the way of last night's dinner……straight down the toilet.
Capcom (like Zipper, Guerilla, and soooo many devs before them) haven't cottoned onto the fact that it's _not_ CoD's gameplay that's the main reason for it's crazy over-the-top following, but more it's status as the go-to game for teen blokes in many countries. There are plenty of as-good (and arguably better) twitch shooters, and oodles of other fast-paced (but not like CoD) action games, but the reason CoD succeeds is because of its market penetration. No game is likely to come close this gen, because of the critical mass CoD has built up.
What this means, though, is that (like KZ3 and SOCOM 4 did) Capcom will throw out it's traditional fans in a misguided attempt to try and grab a slice of the CoD pie. I can understand Guerilla and Zipper making these mistakes, but after the failure of so many CoD-wannabes in the last year, surely someone would start to wise up…..
Exactly. It's the social aspect of COD's multiplayer that's driving its sales. It is the go-to game for the teen and even college crowd. Many play it simply because their friends do. About the only other series I have seen that can compete with COD on that level Halo.
This is just SO true. It's the social aspect they should try recreate – if anything – and not the game.
If only the competitors tried making something *else* with equal social potential they got a much better chance at succeeding.
Just look at Wordfeud! Who could have seen that one coming? "Everybody" are playing that now. Some fools are probably going to try to make a wordfeud clone but they will fail.
Just checked out CVG and the Sixth Axis. It looks like Capcom just kicked up a freaking hornet's nest of negativity exactly one day after trailer. Great job Mr. marketing genious.
It also makes sense for me not to buy their product. Which I haven't in a long time.
makes sense to have more action?
but i thought you said id be the "ultimate horror entertainment"?
sigh, do crapcom ever listen to what their saying?
so classic RE moments, ultimate horror is action moments is it?
sigh.
ill say it again, anyone got a baseball bat i can borrow?
Well I have to say I really liked what I saw of the Leon sections. Chris Military operations didn't seem as fun to me, but I won't pan it yet, even after that horrible CoD reference. I still think this looks the best RE I have seen Since Nemesis. I look forward to seeing video clips focused on gameplay before I really make up my mind, for now I can say I am certainly interested.
I'm giving this a fair chance and I'm the one who got a refund on RE5 the next day! I just played RE3:Nemesis and was reminded of how much better classic RE is.
Well they said dead space 2 was going to be more action oriented and it still scared the crap out of me
Is there ANY way I can see a press release for a new game in an established Japanese franchise that DOESN'T mention Call of Duty or the Western market?!
It's driving me BATSH** INSANE. 🙁
I agree. I wish the Japanese would keep making what their making. They don't realize that the Call of Duty crowd is a unique beast and its somehow firmly established, probably due to excellent marketing and NLP bullcrap.
They never stop to think that maybe one of their unique games will explode like Call of Duty did. I think CoD was just in the right place at the right time, as there are far superior shooters, and action games out there that don't get the attention they deserve. Plus I think the next generation of gamers and humans in general want everything to come easy. Give a teenager super gouls and ghosts, or even the original super mario world and I bet most would stop playing because either its too hard, or they aren't leveling up some aspect of their character.
Where have the days of leveling up our personal skills gone? Playing a shooter online and dying until YOU learn how to adapt and get better. Its called practice and I think people don't want that in their games anymore 🙁
Its why rayman origins is my favourite game of last year. The later levels were insane fun and very challenging especially the speed runs and collections. I think CoD will die but only when people keep making what THEY love and like to play…just look at Mine crafts success. Who would have thought that game with those graphics would be so successful? End rant.
Hehe yeah – it's almost as if one might wonder if they are just having fun. If they are all trying to squeeze COD in there somewhere as some ongoing joke. 😀
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From what I can figure, I think that the RE games have just slowly evolved to this point without us realizing it. Think about it. 1 had a lot of creepy and no fast action. 2 had a little as far as Mr. X and Ada go. 3 had Nemesis on your ass a good portion of the game. 4 had waves of zombies coming at you & 5 kicked it up another notch with lots of button mashing and more action. 6 is just the further evolution that ditches the tank controls. While I admit that they aren't as scary as before (especially with co-op), I still believe that the core is still Resident Evil. If you want true horror, Silent Hill hasn't strayed too far from it's roots.
lol damn…. this a sad case. went from setting standards 2 following standards for a bigger audience & bank rolls. smh