If you'd like to accuse definite gamer and Playboy model Jo Garcia of not being a true-blue gamer, feel free. We kinda did it . And you know what? The more you accuse her, the more she's gonna prove you wrong.

I just got off the phone with Jo. We spoke for about 75 minutes…it took all of 2 to know she has a gamer's blood. Much like me (and maybe you), she sits in one spot in an RPG until she can take down the enemies with one or two strikes. She keeps a gaming journal so she can remember exactly where she has been, and what she has already done. Her love and intricate knowledge of Final Fantasy was more than enough to convince me, but it didn't end there.

"My mom didn't want me to have a Nintendo, so I'd sit and watch my dad play. I've always wanted to be like my dad; he liked cars and playing games, and he was just cool. But I wanted to play, too. I had gone online to find out how to get past all the levels and everything, so the next time we played, I asked him to let me go first, because I said 'dad, I'll die quick.' But I didn't; I went through the entire game without dying."

That may be the first example, but it certainly wasn't the last. From a skeptical G4 to journalists at press events, everyone loves to assume that this girl doesn't know what she's doing. They think Playboy sent over their token representative, and the real gamers will scoff and think they have to coach her; i.e., where the buttons are, when to press them, etc. …and then she clears the area faster than any other gaming journalist on hand to sample the demo, and everyone sits there, confused, shocked, and (admit it, guys) impressed.

"I love RPGs; I'm an RPG girl, and I have to do everything. I have to do every side quest, I have to find everything, and I won't stop until I do. I love all the Final Fantasies, I love all sorts of games like Battlefield and Borderlands. I really liked Parasite Eve and Oddworld; two of my favorite games, I really thought Oddworld was way ahead of its time."

Here's where I kicked in my two cents; explaining how I had to farm up the 300 pieces of junk in PE to get the AK-47, primarily because I knew she would know exactly what I'm talking about. Hell, I don't think half the PSXE community would know what I'm talking about. And that was a common theme throughout our talk: gaming is a big part of her life and in some cases, it is her life.

So by all means, call her out. I've advised her to always respond; don't let anyone get away with it. She didn't let us get away with it, and that was the right thing to do. Just be prepared; if you do have the unmitigated gall to call down the thunder, expect to hear her talk like a gamer. And at the end, expect to be a little red in the face.

This is the first headline we will create from our talk with Jo. The second will involve her thoughts on the future of gaming and the upcoming generation (and what she wants to see), as well as her belief in the importance of storytelling. In the meantime, visit Gamer Next Door and check things out. She's welcome to throw things our way in the future, and if anyone wants to say she isn't a gamer, they can come deal with me first.

Pretty girls don't game. Guys like me who love to read, write, and work out, don't play video games. …yeah, well, we anomalies have to stick together. And she has had to go through a lot more stereotypical nonsense, too. Guess it's time to toss it all out the window.

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Riku994
Riku994
10 years ago

It's moments like these that make me incredibly proud and happy to be a member of this community…


Last edited by Riku994 on 12/7/2011 12:20:40 AM

Suapsycho
Suapsycho
10 years ago

If she wants to prove it to me, I'll gladly send her directions to my place. She could help me with my Dick's Balls… trophy! Yeah…

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
10 years ago

Dude, that was not cool.

ImTheMan
ImTheMan
10 years ago

@excelsior I'm sure he felt that he had to say that since he's probably been the only one playing with his Dick's Balls… trophy! Yeah…

Underdog15
Underdog15
10 years ago

Can't figure out if you're Bevis or Butthead… Your motto seems to be… see a woman… become neanderthal.

Imagine…. what life would be like if you were more "see a woman… strike up an intelligent conversation"

Yeah… sorry… that was probably a stretch. At least your sock will always keep you warm at night.

kevinater321
kevinater321
10 years ago

His sock probably wouldn't keep him warm though….probably not even soft anymore…

OPHIDIAN
OPHIDIAN
10 years ago

I really hope she doesn't read his comments.

So embarrassing.


Last edited by OPHIDIAN on 12/7/2011 7:10:59 AM

Beamboom
Beamboom
10 years ago

@Underdog: Dude – Beavis and Butthead were cool. Yeah. huhhh huhh huh – they rock. Yeah. Huh… Awesome. Huhuhu!

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

Classy, real classy. Yeah, you're a perfect example of what this community DOES NOT stand for. Thanks for that, really. I mean there are crass remarks and then there are crass remarks, and then there is your comment. Honestly, a retraction and apology are not really too much to expect.

@OPHIDIAN

Exactly, the kind of comment made by 'Suapsycho' is an embarrassment to the entire community. 🙁


Last edited by TheHighlander on 12/7/2011 10:01:20 AM

79transam
79transam
10 years ago

Wow get over people. He just said what everyone was thinking

coverton341
coverton341
10 years ago

Not to defend Suapsycho, quite the opposite actually, but since this girl is an actual gamer she has probably had more than her fair share of idiotic comments and harassment along these lines.

It's a sad but true aspect of the gaming community that there are more than a handful of people like this. I think it actually speaks very highly of this particular community here though that his comment has received such negative responses and reprimanding.

You need ignorance in small doses to show the overall brilliance of this community.

Underdog15
Underdog15
10 years ago

@79transam
No… I think most of us are big boys now and understand the importance of treating another intelligent person like an intelligent person and not a piece of meat. So, yeah… no, I doubt most people here were thinking that. Mostly because, while most of us appreciate attractive looks, it would be meaningless without the personality and brain power to back it up.

No worries though, you two… that sort of thing comes with maturity. (not age)

@Coverton
Excellent post. Very insightful. An approach I had not thought about before! Much appreciated!

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

@79transam

Get over what? This is a community, not just a transient bunch of random talking heads firing off one like 'first' comments or the usual misogyny under the guide of socially inept gamer talk. I don't see why we should get over anything at all in regards to this.

Oh, and no, he wasn't saying what everyone was thinking. I doubt any of the female readers or contributors were thinking what he wrote. I'm not female, but I can assure you I didn't think what he wrote, and I know that a number of my friends here didn't either. I realize that there are some socially inept and immature gamers in the world, as you and the OP prove. However, if no one tells you that you're being rude, crass or classless, how will you ever learn?

One day, perhaps, you will learn that respecting others means just that, respect. Comments like the one made by the OP here are not in any way respect.


Last edited by TheHighlander on 12/7/2011 10:35:13 AM

79transam
79transam
10 years ago

Underdog did you look at the pictures posted in the article? Really seems like the point of the article was to say "cool a hot chick who plays video games". Sorry but she markets herself as a piece of meat, that is how she makes her money. She could care less if you think of her for her personality and brain power. Actually I bet she hopes that you don't, because that is not how she makes a living.

Perhaps I'm mature enough to be able to understand that.

Highlander ever heard of humor? Clearly that is what Suap was going for. Also I don't need a lecture about this site as I have been a commentator for a while on articles and have been reading the site for over a year(not long but long enough). Commentators on this site tend to take themselves a bit too seriously from time to time.

As for socially inept I guess my wife, child on the way, house, and masters degree are proof that I am just a buffoon amongst the rest of you.

Seriously lighten up, you will live longer


Last edited by 79transam on 12/7/2011 10:38:35 AM

Beamboom
Beamboom
10 years ago

Guys, this kind of reaction towards "babes" goes way, waaaay beyond just "the gaming community". It's the reflex reaction from any teenage boy (probably well into the 20s too) when he sees a beautiful girl in nothing but her underwear.

I mean, sure, tell him it was an idiot comment (anyone that's put their teenage years behind them will agree with that – myself included) but boys will remain boys until the end of time. That's just how it is.

Why do we all care if she is a gamer or not? Because she is beautiful, that's why. She's got a sexy body for all to see with one single search on Google (yeah don't act surprised now). If we want to intellectualize that or not is probably just a question of age. But endorphins are runnin' no matter how good we are at disguising it. She is, after all, an "endorphin machine" (Prince, anyone? ;)).


Last edited by Beamboom on 12/7/2011 10:54:24 AM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

@79transam
I've heard of humor. Humor is this thing that uses wit, intelligence and cleverness. See the thing is, his comment doesn't seem humorous to me at all. There is no wit to it, it's nothing more than a crass remark.

Beamboom, if no one tells these 'boys' that this kind of expression is inappropriate, disrespectful or simply boorish, such 'boys' are doomed to remain immature boys rather than maturing to manhood. However, the larger point for me is that comments made on this site reflect on me, you and everyone else here, whether we made them or not. So why should we tolerate this kind of crap? I don't want anyone reading that kind of comment and imagining that it is somehow representative of me, it's not.


Last edited by TheHighlander on 12/7/2011 10:54:43 AM

79transam
79transam
10 years ago

Beam pretty much nailed it +1 my friend

Highlander fair enough. I will agree that his comment was crass but the reaction to it was overboard IMO. People spend way to much time getting offended by things. I took the comment as an attempt to be funny and not reflection of his intelligence or standing in life.


Last edited by 79transam on 12/7/2011 10:57:02 AM

Ludicrous_Liam
Ludicrous_Liam
10 years ago

Hey, If I was a girl and has a body like that, I'd do the exact same thing. Doesn't necessarly mean that she can't be a gamer.

And, in all honesty, Suapsycho DOES make him/herself look like a 'baffoon' as you put it, with comments like "She could help me with my Dick's Balls… trophy! Yeah…". I mean what, were you expecting him to get 26 thumbs up with comments like "yeah lol!!!1!". I don't think so…he was always gunna get backlash for that kinda comment.

79transam
79transam
10 years ago

Liam not sure if you were responding directly at me or not. Yes I know he should have expected a negative reaction I'm not oblivious to that. I do however feel, as I have said above that the reaction to his comment was overboard.

I was also not saying that she can't be a gamer nor be considered as anything other then hot. However I think you are foolish if you think that she cares what people on this website think of her. I 100% believe she is a "gamer" and I 100% believe that she wants badly for you and everyone else to believe that because it adds to the fantasy that she is selling and at the end of the day that is her job.


Last edited by 79transam on 12/7/2011 11:14:03 AM

Beamboom
Beamboom
10 years ago

If I know girls correctly then Jo's received much, *much* worse from other girls than she'll ever hear from any guy.

If I were a Chippendale in my spare time I'd not care one single bit if girls of all ages drooled all over me. Not a single bit. I'd laugh all the way to the bank.


Last edited by Beamboom on 12/7/2011 11:33:48 AM

Underdog15
Underdog15
10 years ago

Yeah… I'm pretty sure you're wrong about her not caring what people think of her personality.

You wanna be an idiot about this, go ahead.

And I'm positive I'll live much longer than you.

Much… much long…. and wealthier… and happier in a meaningful relationship with my hot, sexy, and brilliantly intelligent wife.

Underdog15
Underdog15
10 years ago

hahaa, I gotta share this and be done with the conversation.

I just talked to my friend Kerri who modeled her way through university (in foreign affairs and women's studies, funnily enough). I told her about this conversation, and she says you guys are pigs. She also said it's frustrating that people can't see beyond the first layer in front of them (referring to how you see a model =therefore= only cares about what you think about how they look.) She says guys like you are part of the reason society will never be able to look at models, gamers, or "those of us that are both" as anything other than what those labels dictate. "God forbid we be 3-dimensional human beings"

She then called you guys a name I can't really repeat here.

yeah…. I'm gonna just disagree with you, laugh, shake my head, and move on now. lol


Last edited by Underdog15 on 12/7/2011 11:51:19 AM

jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
10 years ago

It was a rude comment, but Jo poses nude for Playboy. And markets herself to gamers (mostly men who can range in age from the highly horny 13 year olds, up to guys in their 50s). I'm sure she's gotten her fair share of inappropriate comments before. No need to belittle Suapsycho.

Underdog15
Underdog15
10 years ago

@79transam
So, her being attractive and a gamer is a "fantasy" she is selling?

…..

Am I seriously the only one that isn't blown away by her? I'm just glad someone is out on the forefront to do their part in battering down the stereotypes. I'm not buying into any sort of stereotype, nor do I contribute monetarily to playboy or any of her work.

I just think people shouldn't be defined by their occupation. Especially if all it does is draw out juvenile points of view on modeling.

But, if you know anything about the history of playboy, the most famous models use their looks to get noticed, but it's only a starting point. Because even 10 years from now, they need to rely on their brain power. So, the best strategy for any playmate is to be recognized for their work outside of modeling while using modeling to get noticed.

It's so in-your-face obvious, it's sickening that you would continue to think she doesn't care what people think about her OUTSIDE of modeling. Her caring what people think is the WHOLE REASON this entire thing was even started. Seriously, look at things 3-dimensionally like I've been saying this whole time. If people don't notice her for anything other than modeling now, then 10-15 years from now, she will not have an easy time remaining in media spotlight.

Most playmates use playboy to get an awesome degree at a prestigious and expensive university. It's naive to think they don't care what people think about them if it isn't related to their looks. It's almost laughable you would suggest as much.


Last edited by Underdog15 on 12/7/2011 12:35:40 PM

jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
10 years ago

@ Underdog

Well, girls that look like her and play games are pretty few and far between. Fantasy? Maybe. Rarity? Yea, probably. I love the fact that she is completely destroying sterotypes and stigmas that are associated with gamers, but the entire reason Ben has been covering her is because it *is* a rarity that a model would be a gamer.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

@Jimmy,

You're right, there is no need to belittle the OP, but then, that's because his own comments belittle him far more than any of us can.

Beamboom
Beamboom
10 years ago

Underdog, we are ALL labelled. Every single one of us. We are all one dimensional beings until one gets to know each other.

If I say "bouncer", what do you or your friend think of then? Or "lifeguard", "teacher", "programmer", "soldier", "stripper", "unemployed", "alcoholic", "smuggler", "priest", "muslim", "senior citizen", "cashier", "lawyer", "Scotsman", "politician"…

Don't try and give me the "we don't get any pictures in our heads until we get to know them, we believe everyone should be given the same chance to prove their <bla bla bla>"-speech. Of course you get one dimensional images, stereotypes in your heads. We all do!

This is nothing special just for good looking girls (nude or not). Lord knows a beautiful girl gains a *tremendous* much from her looks too (just like good looking men do – this is proven time and again: Beautiful people (girls AND boys) enjoys an easier life. People are more positive towards them, they get more mates to choose from, they are offered better jobs and better salaries).

So if your friend took off her clothes to get through the university years and then turn around calling the ones who enjoyed her nude body without worrying too much about her philosophical capacities "pigs" as soon as she's got a degree, well then that says a lot more about her than them. You go tell'er that. 😉


Last edited by Beamboom on 12/7/2011 12:51:28 PM

Underdog15
Underdog15
10 years ago

I can agree with that Jimmy.

I still think the entire topic deserves a more brain-encouraged response than the OP and more respect than transam gives it.

I don't think her image means she deserves to be barked and howled at. I have never been with a woman and treated her with anything other than loving respect. There's no situation that calls for that. The whole, "She dresses sexy; therefore she deserves to be seen as a piece of meat and nothing else" gets under my skin. (For the record, Jimmy, I'm not referring to you in any of this)

Maybe I just value women too much….

@Beamboom
Well for almost all of those, I do not, but that has nothing to do with me being "honorable" or some crap. I'm an employment counselor by profession and see all sorts of professionals in all careers (although, most are youth). But I know exactly what you mean.

HOWEVER, it's stupid to think that I'm supposed to just accept every knee-jerk reaction because that's the acceptable stereotype. That's the whole point of this article. How can we discuss the idiocy of gamer stereotyping, then follow it up by allowing for stereotypical responses to everything else? It's just a giant mass of contradiction and hypocrisy. It makes far more sense to me to, if you get a 1-dimensional image in your head, to make a conscious effort to see more than what is in front of you.

Simply put… I hate when people make half-ashed justifications like that.

As for my friend… I said she was a model. I never said she was nude….. Why would you assume she posed nude? Your whole paragraph is a mass of assumptions I refuse to address.

How incredibly asinine.


Last edited by Underdog15 on 12/7/2011 12:53:32 PM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

Underdog, I don't think you need to worry about valuing women too much, I'm not sure that can be described as an issue.

79transam
79transam
10 years ago

Underdog I never said that she does not care what people think about her. I said she does not care what people on this website think of her because to her we are all potential clients/customers. Also not sure why you felt the need to resort to personal attacks towards me but I'm happy for you that you will live long, wealthy, and have a meaningful relationship with your wife.

"I can agree with that Jimmy.

I still think the entire topic deserves a more brain-encouraged response than the OP and more respect than transam gives it.

I don't think her image means she deserves to be barked and howled at. I have never been with a woman and treated her with anything other than loving respect. There's no situation that calls for that. The whole, "She dresses sexy; therefore she deserves to be seen as a piece of meat and nothing else" gets under my skin. (For the record, Jimmy, I'm not referring to you in any of this)

Maybe I just value women too much…. "

The point you are missing is that there is a HUGE difference between a girl that dresses sexy and sells sexy. Sure down the road she may be the next Julia Roberts but as of this momment she is an individual who has resorted to selling naked/semi naked images of herself as her business. Hey good for her just don't buy that she gives a flying anything about what we think on this website.

Also best friend of mine was a male model, is dating a female model and another friend of mine dated a stripper for 3 years so I understand that there is a disconnect between job image and actual personality of the person. However my friends as models or my friends ex do/did not care what their customers thought of them as long as they paid the bills


Last edited by 79transam on 12/7/2011 1:05:16 PM

Beamboom
Beamboom
10 years ago

Underdog, ok I am sorry I just took for granted she had been modelling like Jo here, since you brought it up. I mean, there is a *major* difference between modelling clothes on a catwalk and appear nude in a men's magazine. They are modelling for completely different purposes, and for utterly different audiences. That we surely must agree on.

But back to topic: If we lift this discussion to a wider perspective, to life and human relations in general, I personally believe all normal human beings are found somewhere in the middle, not to the far extremes on any topic (man it's hard to think in norwegian and write in english at times :D).
Meaning, I believe we all can both howl at a sexy girl as well as value and respect females. It is not disrespectful to think someone is sexy, or get turned on by someones physical attributes. I even feel pretty confident that most any person don't mind at all that others gets turned on by them.

It's perfectly possible to value a woman, and at the same time feel a pure physical attraction. There's no disrespect in that. It's pure chemistry. And this is where we ALL are. We are both caring, intelligent individuals and horny pigs. Not necessarily at the same time, but we are capable of being both. We are humans.

I even dare say that most people, regardless of age or sex, would not mind to be treated as "a piece of meat" now and then. I know I wouldn’t! 😀

And if you choose to work as a stripper or a playboy model, well then you better be ready to get both barked at and howled at. Some would even call you a failure if you don't achieve that.

But does that mean the barkers and howlers don't respect her? Don't value her? Do you even think the stripper or soft porn model would prefer if they shut up and started discussing good backup routines and exception handing amongst themselves instead, while enjoying the needle work on their fine lingerie? Neeeh. howl! Bark! It's showtime!


Last edited by Beamboom on 12/7/2011 1:22:36 PM

Underdog15
Underdog15
10 years ago

Of course this site is a good publicity opportunity for her, but I still say, based on the way she responded to Ben and other posters like Frostface, that she does, indeed, care what her gaming peers think of her.

If it were me, I'd take pride in what I do. I have a feeling she takes pride in her accomplishments as well.

Or maybe I just have too much faith in people. That's possible too. But seeing as the only thing she'll get from most of us is our opinions, and not dollars, AND the fact that she actually has read the comments here… tells me… that yeah. I would give credit where credit is due, if I were you.

shadowpal2
shadowpal2
10 years ago

Guys…it's called a 'FORUM', just take it there.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
10 years ago

yah, with all the negatives, I can see why there will be a lot of reply comments.

JRA696
JRA696
10 years ago

Save that b.s. for IGN's website…

Underdog15
Underdog15
10 years ago

@Shadowpal
You're just as welcome as the rest of us to start it up over there. If you think it belongs over there, start it there and suggest it stay there.

Kev2579
Kev2579
10 years ago

That's the trophy from PAIN right? Ha, I doubt some of them got the joke.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
10 years ago

This can stop now, right?

Just my two cents- I'm fairly certain she cares a great deal about what people think of her gaming status. It's a passion of hers and people who question that passion undoubtedly get on her nerves.

As for the inappropriate stuff, I figured there was no way to completely avoid it with this article (and the next). But I'm sure she knew it was unavoidable as well.

PharaohJR
PharaohJR
10 years ago

lmfao at ya post & allot of opinions about the matter.

when i clicked this article & seen this female i said damn smh……. boss lady (Jo Garcia) look here…. you something serious. while reading i said to myself "all right… who will be the 1st person to say something sexual about this female". sure enough…. you did lol.

look as a man i cant deny…. i thought of something just like you but you gave it to the community raw with no season & cooking so most having a hard time digesting your comment.

I believe & just my opinion cant speak for this feline…. that she has to deal with comments like this daily & she over-stands its normal. if not she woulndt take a career in the field of exposing the parts us men think of.

FoReVeR_0515
FoReVeR_0515
10 years ago

Just for the people who don't realize it, "Harder Dick's Balls" is a trophy for the PS3 downloadable game 'Pain'. I'm not getting on the subject of whether or not he should have commented what he did, but I just thought that was a bit of information some may not have known.

pillz81
pillz81
10 years ago

I will take Suapsycho's joke/comment like I take Lisa Lampanelli's jokes about gays, jews, blacks, italians, asians, & mexicans and have a chuckle.

Eh. Men AND women will make their assumptions and voice their opinions of their sexual opposites based on outer appearance. The fact that new people are born everyday makes it certain that immaturity, stereotypes and superficiality will continue to live and flourish.


Last edited by pillz81 on 12/8/2011 4:26:40 PM

kokoro
kokoro
10 years ago

It's awesome to see people who refuse to let stereotypes define and limit who they are. Stereotypes suck because they can hinder people's personal growth imo.

ImTheMan
ImTheMan
10 years ago

Well Ben you WERE the one that called her out so I guess she toooooold you! LOL

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
10 years ago

Well… that's one way to put paid to all that nonsense. Reading this, and taking a quick look at her site, it's clear that she isn't plastic, and I really like that. Definitely looking forward to more.

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
10 years ago

If Ben says Jo is a gamer then I have no reason to doubt her credibility. Since Ben invited her to respond then I might as well try to gain some insight about her gaming experiences.

Hmm, let's see if we can nail her down on some specifics. It's easy to say one loves all the Final Fantasy games. but which one was her favorite? Why was it her favorite? Who was her favorite character in the FF series?

Let's see what else I can come up with. Okay, here's a good one I think. Most serious gamers have played the MGS series. Some thought MGS4 wrapped up the series pretty nicely and that Snake's journey is over. Having said that, where would she like to see the series go next? Any thoughts on MGS Rising?

Sorry if that's too many questions. Maybe there is a question in there she will respond to.

ImTheMan
ImTheMan
10 years ago

She's a credible gamer if she answers all your questions! 😉

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
10 years ago

Yo, its already proven shes a gamer bro.

Vivi_Gamer
Vivi_Gamer
10 years ago

I'm not going to lie as an avid FF fan, I think I would struggle to answer that. My opinion changes all the time. The best I can narrow it down to is from VII – X.

Underdog15
Underdog15
10 years ago

Those are excellent FF's, but knowledge of the earlier ones would be even more surprising for me.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
10 years ago

Excelsior1,
Not positive but I would have to think that Ben probably did his Q&A with Jo already during that 75 minute phone call.

But it would be nice to know those answers too.