Arguing about the greatest perceived console of all time is like arguing about politics. It usually goes nowhere and people just end up pissed.

But with all these rumors about the generation winding down and after five years of the PlayStation 3, maybe we should ask the obvious question: where will Sony's latest machine rank on the Greatest Systems of All Time list? It's tricky…

It had a rocky start but then again, so did the PS2 and, to some extent, the original PlayStation. Then there was the awful hack earlier this year, and the fact that the Network took a little while to get going. But if you go by the determining factor (games, duh), it seems like the PS3, with its amazing list of exclusives, might deserve a spot somewhere…but where?

Being an RPG lover, I have to say the original PlayStation might be tied at the top with the SNES. I have nothing but fond memories of Nintendo's second console, which is why it's still hooked up in the bedroom. And despite all the great RPGs on the PS2, I still say the PS1 remains the King of the RPG in my opinion. I played a good 40 on that system (still own 30 or so) and I have to say, so few let me down. Squaresoft was king in those days, remember.

But that's me. Others loved the Dreamcast and N64 (both of which I really didn't like), while still others will say the Saturn and Genesis were underrated. Of course, one has to make allowances for historical impact, and mention the original NES, Atari, Colecovision, Intellivision, etc. There's lots to consider but based on what we've already seen from the PS3, where do you think it'll fall on your personal list…?

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Shams
Shams
9 years ago

Call me a fanboy, but I've never had as much fun as I've had until this generation. Uncharted series, InFamous series, GTA4, Valkyria Chronicles, Wipeout HD Fury, Ratchet & Clank, KillZones, Ninja Gaidens all won my heart. If the ps1 generation was the era of RPG's, this was the generation of shooters. But even still, the generation had something of every genre to offer to everyone.

Could be that I really only got into gaming recently, but even then that is a testament to this gen. While many are growing out of the hobby, it managed to snatch me back in and with a vengeance.

Shams
Shams
9 years ago

And I also gotta thank Ben, Arnold, and John, and the rest of the good folks here at Psxextreme. It's been a fantastic ride, and it's not over, yet.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

Fanboy!

Shams
Shams
9 years ago

Heh, I guess i did ask for it.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

😉

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

For me, the PS3 is #1. There has never been a console that has done so much for me.

godsman
godsman
9 years ago

Absolutely agreed. I have never left a console on for so long in my life. The PS3 is either playing a game or a movie. Each day, I play it for 5-10 hours a day.

Nas Is Like
Nas Is Like
9 years ago

Beat me to it. PS3 to me is a super console, that has fulfilled many of my wants and needs. That's why I love it.

I would have so many babies with it if I could.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Easy. PS3. There's never been a system with better games. No other prior system has had games that play as good or look as good. Near all of the genres are better represented today than ever (sorry, jRPG's cause the "near") I get to fight online with Tekken 5-6. I get to explore an unparalleled RPG like Skyrim. I get to engage in cinematic action like Uncharted. I get to traverse building tops as Cole or Batman. I can engage in heavily refined and intense multiplayer experiences.
Granted, yesterday's games may have warm and fuzzy feelings attached to them. But not a one of them could release today as they are, without them feeling dated in more ways than one. And a great many of PSX's and PS2's games have come across to PS3 via download, and the latter getting HD makeovers, making for a better than ever experience.

Shams
Shams
9 years ago

I remember hesitantly holding on a chunk of change waiting for me turn in the dark arcades at Uni. And then feeling of relief years later knowing I never have to go back when I can play against and with players all over the world from the comfort of my bedroom. And that happened first on my quaint PSP playing Wipeout Pure and Pulse (while I waited to purchase a ps3), and with Tekken 5:DR on the psn.

Geobaldi
Geobaldi
9 years ago

For me it ranks maybe around the middle of the pack. It just didn't impress me as much as I had hoped it would before launch. Considering that I can go months at a time without turning my PS3 on speaks volumes for me. Compared to the first two PS systems, which received regular playing time throughout their lifetimes, the PS3 is a bit of a letdown in my opinion. So for me, as I've been gaming since '82, my top console is still the SNES, followed by the PS, PS2, Colecovision, Intellivision, then the PS3. Not the best, but not the worst either since there are just as many behind it as in front of it.


Last edited by Geobaldi on 11/21/2011 9:47:20 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

You started playing when I was 1 year old, wowza. Of course, I started shortly thereafter 🙂

Geobaldi
Geobaldi
9 years ago

Lol. Still remember my 6th birthday. Unwrapped Frogger for my Atari. Me and my dad played the heck out of it.

Phoenix
Phoenix
9 years ago

I've gotta agree with you Geo, for me the PS3 has been a let down, it's a fine system but to me it just feels hollow, as it's the games that make the console I guess I can see why, and much like you, I go months without turning it on sadly.

I've been playing since '85 myself, so my top 5 would be SNES, PS1, PS2, NES, and Dreamcast in that order.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Wrong name for the article, it should be PS3: Great System, Or The Greatest System?

Seriously though as an RPG lover I'd have to give it to PS1, but PS2 is overall the greatest system of all time I think for its sweeping coverage of all genres in a fantastic way and a true super-leap in generational change that buried arcade gaming once and for all (not that that's a good thing but we used to dream about having a home system as good as an arcade game).

If Sony had a dedicated studio for RPGs my mind might be changed but they don't, plus it has somehow managed to be the best system and still underperform in many ways against 360 in the multiplat market. Things aren't as bad as they used to be, but we still get the shaft again and again with glitches and bugs and late content and what have you. That's not really Sony's fault except it was a bad idea not to pay for exclusives or give the old fashioned programmers enough GPU to work with.

Shams
Shams
9 years ago

I loved my ps1 because of the wipeout xl, wipeout, FFVII, Tekken 3, and wipeout 3. I loved my ps2 because DMC 1-3se, and Tekken Tag, and my DreamCast for Soul Calibur, and my N64 for Wave Race. Yeah, I know, I'm a guy of simple tastes. But even with the PS2, DreamCast, and N64, they still left me admiring what I saw in the change chuggers.

It wasn't really until this gen, especially with online gaming maturing, that I never bothered again to walk into an arcade.

NoSmokingBandit
NoSmokingBandit
9 years ago

I would agree that the ps2 was the best consoles ever. By a long shot. The ps2 had tons of game in every genre, lots of hidden gems and niche titles.

I feel like the big budget games of this generation, combined with companies trying to get every penny possible out of consumers, has taken away some of the magic.

Shams
Shams
9 years ago

Ah, I forgot Shadow of the Colossus. Probably because I didn't get to it until i played on my ps3. That game definitely goes down as one of the most eerily memorable experiences in gaming. Another feather in the hat of the ps2.

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

@World

I agree Sony has underperformed in the mutiplat market. We do still get the shaft in terms of bugs and glitches. Look at at Bethesda for example. They still do not seem to have a handle on the PS3. Apparently Skyrim has some game killing lag on PS3 once your save file gets too big. That just sucks becuase there is no way to avoid becuase everytime you save your main game file size increases. I love Bethesda games but they do not run so great on the PS3. Even after all the patches Fallout 3 performs terribly at times. Some sections are almost unplayable…the DLC can be bad in particular and Bethesda still has not fixed it!!! Broken Steel for example chugs along at 5 fps at times. Even the main game can do that. Constant freezes that force you to reset. I have almost considered getting a 360 just to play Bethesda's games.

I have wondered about the impact of MS getting early DLC, and multiplats tending to run better on the 360. Gamers aren't stupid. They know this. If a gamer tends to favor multiplats I really can't argue against their choice of getting a 360. I don't like it, but i understand it.

I like your idea of Sony having a studio dedicated to rpgs. A studio dedicated to jrpgs would be even better.


Last edited by Excelsior1 on 11/22/2011 5:29:25 AM

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

Bethesda games are buggy on every system.

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

@Fsnr

That is true but buggy in particular on the PS3. I have seen Fallout 3 on the 360. It runs better. Even looks a little better. I watched my cousin play Broken Steel on the 360. It ran just fine. Absolutely does not run just fine on the PS3. More like it barely runs at all. I don't know if Bethesda just forgot to patch it or what. I downloaded all their patches for the PS3 version but some of the DLC still runs terribly in Fallout 3 goty…Even parts of the main game.

Then we have Skyrim where the PS3 version gets crippling lag if your save file gets too big. No way to avoid it. The 360 version does not have the same problem so I think it it is fair to say Bethesda still does not have a handle on the PS3. I blame them for not cathing that. They released a broken game on the PS3 apparently. I know they will patch it but why is it only the PS3 version that has this problem? I guess Bethesda tested the game on the only PS3's on this planet that do not experience this problem. We are talking about game killing lag in the PS3 version once the save file is too big. This is not a little bug. I tell you what. I will never buy another Bethesda game day 1 again.

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

That's weird, I never heard any of my friends say that when they are playing it. I'll have to ask them again to see if anything has changed.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Broken Steel is unplayable, I had to reset so many times. Skyrim has a lot of lag on PS3 and I've had to reset twice from some really weird hangs, but it isn't enough to make me want to stop playing.

The frames per second don't drop a ton like in Oblivion, but instead things just "jump" ahead. And sometimes the game never catches up with the jump or you have to wait 3-5 minutes for it to catch up.

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

The lag in oblivion wasn't bad it was in certain spots on the map that needed to load for me, other than that it worked smooth.

Fox hounder
Fox hounder
9 years ago

PS3 is in my top 5, but my favorite of all time is the N64.

Cpt_Geez
Cpt_Geez
9 years ago

1. SNES
2. PS2
3. NES
4. PS3
5. Genesis

VampDeLeon
VampDeLeon
9 years ago

PS1 is the number one for me, though I started out with an Atari 2600 for Pacman, and would play many NES and SNES games at my Aunt's place. When I got the PS1 I literally felt it was the ultimate system, with all those great RPG titles and adventure games. Not to mention it was officially my system that I could play with at whatever leisure.

I actually liked the blocky graphics, it sort of gave the characters their own charm since then you could look forward to the FMV and see how the developer's envisioned the characters to look. If anything, I only got a PS2 finally because they had officially stopped making PS1 games in 2003/2004.

jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
9 years ago

Without letting nostalgia cloud my judgment, I'd say PS3 is probably #1 or close to #1. I've been playing games since my Sega Genesis, but I never have seen such a diverse variety of games that I love on any one system. I think this generation in general has pushed games to places we haven't seen before (see: Uncharted series) that truly makes it an EXPERIENCE.

N64 is up there too because I remember being blown away by the analog controller, Super Mario 64 and Goldeneye. Oh, and the rumble pack


Last edited by jimmyhandsome on 11/21/2011 10:18:43 PM

Xra897
Xra897
9 years ago

we shall see after next year. i think its a tad bit too early

Warrior Poet
Warrior Poet
9 years ago

The best system you can have is probably the backwards-compatible PS3 – but that's because it also plays PS1 and PS2 games. Ports and compilations means it actually reaches back into the NES, SNES, Genesis, and even Atari libraries!

As much as I love my PS1/2/3/P, I've gotta say…Game Boy Advance is the greatest console ever. Yep.


Last edited by Warrior Poet on 11/21/2011 10:19:41 PM

firesoul453
firesoul453
9 years ago

GBA is an awesome but N64 is better!

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

My gaming goes all the way back to the old Pong/Telstar Alpha/Tandy Computer(that's Radio Shack now to all you youngsters)/and Texas Instruments days.

For myself at this moment, my list would have to be….
1. PS2
2. PS3
3. PS1
4. Dreamcast
5. 360
6. Intellivision/Colecovision (Tie)
7. Panasonic FZ10 3DO

The PS3 would have to come in 2nd just due to the much bigger & more diverse 1900plus game library the PS2 had, but I DO expect the PS3 to replace it at the very top my list soon enough.

BTW, My PSP's would be in the #4 spot if we were adding handheld's into the mix.
And I'm pretty sure that when my Vita preorder is in my hands, it will wind up knocking the 360 out of my 5th spot on it's very 1st day.


Last edited by BikerSaint on 11/21/2011 10:25:17 PM

Vidius
Vidius
9 years ago

1. Nintendo 64 (First system I had, big attachment)
2. Ps2 (Big library of games and ps1 compatible)
3. Wii (Fun games with friends and Family like Mario Kart, Party, SSBB and Twilight Princess)
4. Ps4 (Uncharted, Resistance)
5. Sega Dreamcast (my friend owned one and Chrono trigger was beast)

Vidius
Vidius
9 years ago

I know that this is a ps oriented site but I feel that Ninty made the biggest impact this gen because they introduced us to a little word named FUN! Especially when we play with friends and family.


Last edited by Vidius on 11/21/2011 11:02:28 PM

firesoul453
firesoul453
9 years ago

Ps3 is without a doubt for me number 2!!!!

NIntendo 64 simply is the best game system ever made! RARE made what are probably the best adventure games ever made.

(and you know what happened?!!!?!!?! MICROSOFT NOW OWN RARE!!!, for what they did to the best game company in existence, I will also dislike Microsoft )

AntDC
AntDC
9 years ago

If there's one thing I'm sure we can all agree on, it has certainly been the most resilient. Thinking back to 2007 (something I don't particularly enjoy… Those were dark days to be a PlayStation fan…) this console has truly come a long way. Sony just ignored the noise coming from journalists and continued to shape it into what it is today; unarguably one of the greatest video game consoles of all time.

As Ben has also pointed out in the past, it easily wins the award for the most talked about console.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
9 years ago

I go way back to the NES days. Hahaha, I still remember sneaking in my parents room just to play my NES system, I guess I wanted to showoff, proved to them that I could rescue the princess.

There is so many great memories. past memories when I was a kid playing games beats anything that is else today.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 11/21/2011 11:29:23 PM

Mogreen
Mogreen
9 years ago

Ps2… No standouts still have over 30 games that I still love
Ps3… My standouts – uncharted 2 gta4 mgs4 nba 2K10
Ps1… My fav standouts MGS smackdown 2 Tomba
Sega genesis… My fav standouts – comix zone sonic 2 streets of rage 2
Super Nintendo… My standout – Super Mario World

Yea the systems are in order of my greatest to least greatest. But since ps2 has been out all the way til currently I play games or spend time on playstation 10x more than watching movies,cable,on the internet.

BigBoss4ever
BigBoss4ever
9 years ago

NES, Sega Genesis, Super NES, PS, PS2 — These five consoles gave me the greatest joy out of video gaming, my entire youth, childhood, adolescence, 20s, grew up with playing games on these consoles. I could not even imagine what I would have become otherwise without these consoles and games on them. Hence, these are my greatest 5 consoles.

With regard to the PS3, since it offered the greatest titles such as MG4, Uncharted2/3, Heavy Rains, Demon Souls…it can be said a great console, but it loses points for not having one single truly classic, great, everlasting JRPG, therefore I do not place it among the legendary five consoles I listed above.

p.s. this generation PS3/360 are guilty of driving the industry more greedy, more pragmatic, more profiting orientation, less intuitive, less other worldly, less perfectionist, less artistic… this reduces points too, from my point of view. it is since this generation that gaming officially became a multi-million dollar business tailoring towards the mass public, and NO LONGER a niche market and no longer only "boy"'s love, passion, life, dream, everything; it is also since this generation that releasing a game is no different than releasing a blockbuster hollywood movie in which video pre-views, reviews, testings, interviews, Beta, exhibitions everywhere, gaming is no longer mysterious, no longer sacred, the cut scenes are readily available everywhere… I know it is not just PS3' fault, but PS3 is guilty of that partially as its graphical power is the drive.

games like ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, MGS2/3, Castlevania SOTN, FF4/6/7/8/9, Chrono Trigger/Cross and such became a rarity and only the true perfectionist and genius like Kojima or Uetda are still holding off there artistic vision and not just focus on how well the games would sell. Gaming industry require such dedication which can been seen everywhere in the SNES, PS1/PS2 era.

Sorry for off the topic, but these are related topics when talking about generation of consoles.


Last edited by BigBoss4ever on 11/22/2011 12:51:37 AM

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

Good discussion question Ben… for me I was brought up primarily on Commodore Machines, so my list is as follows for the most memorable gaming hardware and experiences!

1] Commodore 64
Last Ninja I/II/III, Turrican I/II, Elite & Thalamus Games)

2] Amiga 500
(Defender Of The Crown, Rocket Ranger, Shadow Of The Beast)

3] Amiga 1200
(Psygnosis Games – now Evolution Studios, Syndicate etc)

4] PlayStation 3
(Uncharted I/II/III, Killzone 2/3 etc)

5] PlayStation 1
(Crash Bandicoot/VRally etc)

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"


Last edited by Qubex on 11/22/2011 12:58:02 AM

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

Awwww AMIGA! <3 <3 <3


Last edited by Beamboom on 11/22/2011 1:07:57 PM

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

I've never had as much fun or owned so many games for one console, or enjoyed so many different genres of games than on the PS3, so it's easy for me. Not to mention, despite not having these luxuries 10 years ago, the PSN, all the downloadable tittles, blu-ray, the list goes on. Even if that's not really fair to judge on, I still can base my opinion on the software alone! Its an amazing console with so much to offer!

___________
___________
9 years ago

hmmmmmmm hard.
id have to say best was definitely the ps2 then the ps1, N64, SNES and then genesis.
all a sh*t load better then the ps3 though!
so many freaking awesome games they had, especially the ps2 there is not enough paper in the world to list every amazing game it received.
ps3 though……..
well, id be able to count them on 1 hand!

Spineshank
Spineshank
9 years ago

In Psychology you'll learn that older memories are more fond due to the simple fact that the human being tends to suppress unpleasant one's subconsciously. Give it ten years and you claim that the PS3 reined supreme.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

This is true. But for me, I also have memories of, even though I had some new games, wanting to re-play some over and over. I still beat FF7 every 2 years on average. My favorite game of all time was within the last 5 years or so. For me, my disappointment in the current gen is solely because my favorite genre is no longer made.

So I feel for me it's a little different.

___________
___________
9 years ago

no, no i wont.
i play my ps1 and ps2 games all the time!
i play the original crash, and original looney tunes games on the train on the way to work every day!
currently searching for a 60GB ps3 so i can play my R&C collection again too.

gray_eagle
gray_eagle
9 years ago

ps1
ps3
ps2
atari 2600
nes

if it was'nt for sony and the ps1, who knows how long we would've
kept buying game catridges.

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

It definitely has to sit behind the PS2 and even the PS1 in terms of popularity. The PS1 was the first console I paid for by myself and it's also when I fell in love with Sony. There were so many kick a$$ games on the PS1. We had MGS1, the RE games, Dino Crisis 1 and 2, Silent Hill, Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy, Parasite Eve, Star Ocean, and tons of other great jrpgs. Squaresoft kicked out all kinds of great games. FF7, 8, and 9…what a great series. I definitely remember being blown away by MGS1 becuase of the great story and all the awesome voice acting. Look at all the great games I mentioned. Notice how they were all made in Japan. Sony had a huge impact on the gaming industry that gen. They went for more mature gamers. A lot of adults were playing the PS1…it was in a lot of living rooms. Ofcourse MS did not like this and they decided they wanted to be in living rooms as well.

The PS2 was even more popular and we continued to get all kinds of great games from Japan. DMC1 was great. FF10, Onimusha, Silent Hill 2, and 3. Dragon Quest 8, Suikedon series. MGS2 and the awesome MGS3(wow, blown away by its jungle setting). RE4 was awesome as well. Sony absolutely owned that gen. Ofcourse that was a lot of fun for me becuase I am a big Sony fan.

Okay, so we get to the PS3. Very rough start this gen for Sony. That was tough on me becuase I am a big Sony fan. Even tougher watching all my friends go over to 360 crowd. Oh well, I give Sony a lot of credit for turning things around to some extent. It has been a tough uphill fight for Sony this gen but I think they have learned some painful lessons…they had a very expensive system that was apparently tough to make games for. Gamers were turned off by the price. Developers were crying about how tough the PS3 was make games for. All kinds of inferior multiplats floating around at the start of this gen. Sony's obscure marketing at the start of this gen did not help. Weird demon baby ads, and telling people to get 2 jobs…pretty crazy stuff. I think Sony kicked Ken Kutaragi upstsairs after the PS3's early problems. Oh yeah, the Japanese gaming industry has seemed to have lost their minds trying to figure this gen out.

Anyways, the PS3 has survived and enjoys great software support. Sony has all kinds of great developers lined up now. They also have a decent online infanstructure now. I have played many great games this gen such as MGS4, Infamous 2, Heavy Rain, Fallout 3, Mass Effect 2, and Skyrim. The PS3 does not seem to have any really great jpgs so it takes a hit for that in terms of where I would rate it.

Objectively speaking I guess I would rate the PS3 somewhere in the middle. I want to rate the PS1 as my favorite system but I wonder if nostalgia is clouding my judgement. Like Ben said there were so many great jpgs though. The truth is I love all of Sony's consoles. It's tough picking one over the other becuase they have all been great.


Last edited by Excelsior1 on 11/22/2011 3:49:36 AM

Kain81
Kain81
9 years ago

My top 5 Consoles
1. PS1
2. SNES
3. PS2
4. PS3
5. GC

PS1, SNES, PS2 This 3 Consoles have the BEST JRPG library in HISTORY, in my opionion at least…

Zubair
Zubair
9 years ago

PS3