This is what happens when an exaggerated quote leads to extremist headlines.

Recently, a Nikkei report stated that many third-party game designers are shifting their focus from the PlayStation Vita to the Nintendo 3DS.

This was due to an unknown source, which should've elicited nothing more than a passing glance from journalists.

But sadly, that's not how things work. And now, Sony has been forced to respond to such headlines: Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios senior vice president Scott Rodhe told Gamasutra that the report in question was "greatly exaggerated" and offered some logic to boot:

"I did not see that quote, but you see extremist quotes like that all the time. I mean, obviously, there is no way anyone could stand in front of a camera and say that all developers are changing focus from one platform to another, no matter what it is."

Rohde reiterated previous Sony claims, saying that plenty of third-party developers have planned to support the Vita in the future. Major third-party franchises, such as Call of Duty , Assassin's Creed , Bioshock , and Metal Gear Solid , have already been confirmed for Sony's new portable. So no, despite what some might want you to think, the Vita isn't DOA.

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TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Ah, I see, the knives are out. There's a chance that a Sony platform might succeed and out come the un-named sources to pour scorn on it. What a surprise…

Oyashiro
Oyashiro
9 years ago

I don't see how anyone can believe a unnamed source that somehow knows what every developer is going to do.

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

It's pretty pathetic that people will go lengths as this.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Every silent fart I let out is from an un-named source, too.

It's not as stinky or useless as these extremist quotes, though.

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
9 years ago

Are you okay today?

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

LOL Underdog,

Other than spraying hot coffee out of both nostrils from laughing so hard, that comment made my day!!!!!!

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

@Killa
Always!

@Biker
Always glad to be of service! lol. You're still the king of simile and corporate insults! 🙂

Hoagie324
Hoagie324
9 years ago

I definitely think this was a big exaggeration, I'm glad it was elaborated upon. Once the Vita sells a lot more, developers will come around (if any strayed in the first place) and will make awesome games. I played Uncharted: Golden Abyss all day yesterday after I got the vita, and I absolutely loved every second. The device is awesome and I can't wait to see how good the games will start getting on the device with time.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Lame, why people pick on Sony so much is a mystery to me. I saw this on a Nintendo blog and the trolls were coming out in full force. I can't afford a Vita at the moment but I will have one soon. Looks like an awesome piece of hardware.

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
9 years ago

I did not for any purposes wanted a psvita, but now that i am traveling among the US states, i want one so i can play on the go. I never understood why people wanted this handhelds, but i now see why. I mean, yea, ovbously thats what a vita is for but i would of never thought i would need one. I could be playing my psvita right now!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I love handhelds. I take my PSP and now my 3DS with me when ever I travel. The Vita will make a nice replacement for my PSP.

frylock25
frylock25
9 years ago

jawknee i went in gamestop today for the first time in like a year. they had a demo model of the vita. i wanted one before but now that i have held it in my hands and played with it, I MUST HAVE A VITA! i played uncharted on it for a while and loved it. i actually had to just put it down and walk away from it because it made me want it to much and i wont have the money til i get my tax return.

Evil Incarnate
Evil Incarnate
9 years ago

DOOM AND GLOOM FOR SONY……..AGAIN!!!

How f**king old is this getting? I'm really sick of the same old Kotaku style headlines to get clicks. This same BS is why game journalism is a joke!(Excluding this site of course).

An unknown source told me the other day, that Nintendo was shifting development to PS Vita and pigs would learn too fly by the end of 2012!!! Get the headlines ready!


Last edited by Evil Incarnate on 2/16/2012 1:01:36 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I am an unnamed source, I say stuff too.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

HA.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
9 years ago

Someone who doesn't like a particular company I suppose.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

What? That made zero sense.

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

I'm surprised you didn't use "Fanboy" I'm guessing you moved onto "Fangirl" for now amirite?

And I wouldn't take this unknown source seriously either.

Cpt_Geez
Cpt_Geez
9 years ago

On feb 22 the vita will prove u to be wrong.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Once again, you demonstrate with ease what a tool looks like.

DazeOfWar
DazeOfWar
9 years ago

Vallartagirl is obviously clueless.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

@Vallarta
NAME YOUR UNNAMED SOURCE, DAMNIT!

lol

Oh wait…. theeeeeeere's the problem! I get it now! ;p

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

A smear campaign against something Sony related? Shocker.

/sarcasm

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

The Nikkei is a well respected newspaper in Japan that jas been calculating the daily averages for the Tokyo Stock Exchange since 1950. The top 225 companies in Japan are commonly referred to the Nikkei 225. It's the most widely quoted publication in the world when it comes to Japanese business matters. I doubt they would have ran this story without vetting its source. There is most likely at least some truth to it, and it's certainly not the first negative story we have seen regarding the Vita. There was already speculation amongst industry analysts that sluggish weekly Vita sales in Japan would lead to publishers abandoning the platform.

I don't like unnamed sources either but they are just a reality of jouranlism when a person's career is on the line. That's when you have to look at the credibility of the publication that ran the original story. In this particular case it's tough to imagine a more credible source.


Last edited by Excelsior1 on 2/16/2012 2:49:31 PM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

It was an unnamed source. Whether the source wanted to be named or not, I don't know.

What I do know is that we're not talking about the report, but the inaccurate and reactionary headlines gleaned from it.

Neo_Aeon666
Neo_Aeon666
9 years ago

The fame of the Newspaper means nothing. Attracting headlines are attracting headlines. Get some spicy info and let it out even if the source is not so reliable. That's how it works and they are no exception.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

CBS was a well respected source….once.

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

I wasn't really trying to talk about fame but rather credibility. Big difference between the Wall Street Journal running a piece with an unnamed source and the The National Enquirer. The credibilty of the publication is always an issue when using unnamed sources. The Nikkei is not a sensationalist publication. It's well respected in the business community. I know that much at least.

Unnamed sources have been behind many of the biggest breaking stories of our time like it or not. Like I said I usually try to look at where the original story came from. Have they been credible in the past? Do they have a good reputation? The answer to both questions is a yes in this particular case. At least it is for me. If it were possible I would even go further and look at the particular reporter who was behind this piece so I could see how accurate they have been in the past. I have no way of doing that though.

I have no doubt this story is getting amplified by repeat coverage. I do think the publication that ran the original story is credible and there is at least some truth to it however. That's just my small opinion though


Last edited by Excelsior1 on 2/16/2012 4:27:09 PM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Justify it any way you wish Excelsior, the truth here is that you're looking for an opportunity to bash Sony, and this gives you one.

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

@highlander

That's bashing? Come on. I just said I thought there was some truth to the original Nikkei piece and it is a well regarded source for information in the business community. The first part is just my small opinion which I am entitled to and I thought I laid out a pretty good reason as to why I felt that way without "bashing". The second part is fact. The Nikkei is well regarded as a source for Japanese bussiness information. That's why I think there is at least some merit to the original story. I did not say Sony $ucks or the Vita is toast. I'm just not so quick to blow off unnamed sources especially when they come from what I view to be a credible publication.

I strongly suspect there are some publishers that did turn to the 3DS because of the current make up of the handheld industry in Japan. That does not mean they won't come back to the Vita or Sony is doomed or failing with the Vita. I tend to think the Vita will be even more successful than the PSP in the long run, and I consider the PSP to be a success.


Last edited by Excelsior1 on 2/16/2012 5:37:25 PM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

You've said three times now how well regarded the news source is. As I pointed out well regarded news sources can make horrible mistakes and the can become enamored with their own credibility as has happened not only with major news publications here but also network TV news. So let's not lean so much on the repute of the publication, especially when the source of the report is unknown.

As far as bashing goes, you're more than aware of what I am referring to as is anyone here who knows your posting pattern.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

Excelsior never misses an opportunity to criticize Sony, even in a roundabout way.

Still waiting on any positive post from him concerning the company. Any at all.

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

HOLY COW!!! Nobody would call that bashing even in a rounabout way except people with Sony goggles firmly afixed to their faces.

And just to get it through to the adminstrator of this "nonfansite" I just said the other day the PSP would be remembered as a success. No jabs, no roundabouts. Just plain old the PSP will be remembered as a success. Sounds like a compliment and pretty damn positive to me. Maybe I should have used all caps?


Last edited by Excelsior1 on 2/16/2012 7:09:04 PM

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Excelsior, I personally don't mind when you're critical of Sony anymore. However, when you won't awknowledge that that is what you are doing, then make snarky comments about the site and it's administrators, that crosses the line.

MyWorstNightmar
MyWorstNightmar
9 years ago

Personally i cant wait to get my hands on the vita, but that fact aside, Im not going to believe Sony just cuz they say so. They say what is in their best interest at any given time.

For those that remember, they denied that the leaked ps3 slim photos way back when were real, they denied that price drops were coming.

All we can do is wait and see. Dont dismiss this because of the games that are planned to come. We dont have them yet, and even if we do get these games mentioned in the article, who says we are promised more?

Dont kill the messenger, lets just see how all this pans out. We wont know for several months. Excelsior has a point to look at the source publication.

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

Jawk

The snarky comment still waiting to for you to say something positive is perfectly okay though even though I have said positive things recently? That's a snarky comment in itself. It's getting personal which is totally unneccessary. Yeah, I can get snarky if provoked. I'm only human and I'm guilty of returning the personal jab. It probably is a line I should not have crossed but that line is a two way street. It's not fair if one side can get in all the snarky comments they want and then there are complaints if the favor is returned. Ha!! I know life isn't fair but I do try very hard not get personal in any way anymore. I have toned it down.

I will admit I am harder on Sony than a lot of others here but I think I fit in okay enough. There is some killing the messenger here. I'm just saying hold on a minute there could be some truth to this. Look at the source of the original story for a second. I think that point is valid at least. Somehow saying that is getting twisted into bashing Sony. It might be a contrarian viewpoint but it's at least something to consider.

Unnamed sources don't automatically equal untrue which seems to be the default position of many above me. There's usually a damn good reason people don't feel comfortable going on the record. They lose their damn jobs or even worse. They can get blacklisted and removed from the industry altogether. Companies have even been known to conduct leak tests to get individuals that talk removed. It's rare but has been proven to happen. That's when I rely on the professionals to sort it out. I am 100% certain Nikkei at least vetted this individual before running that story. How accurate his claim is remains to be seen. He could be overstating it or just flat out misinformed. I think there might be some truth to it. That is all.


Last edited by Excelsior1 on 2/16/2012 10:58:22 PM

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

@Excelsior
Credible paper or no, the source is unnamed. Additionally, there are literally no reports or objective points of view that have credibility.

The paper you site may be credible, but note that they are saying "unnamed source". In fact, to me it almost sounds like an opinion piece.

This isn't even about monetary failures. It's about 1 single unnamed source claiming all these developers are abandoning the vita allasudden. Bear in mind, it would have to be quite the damned big wicked awesome source to know what -ALL- the third party devs are thinking all at once.

And there inlies a logical person's skepticism. That newspaper you claim is legit isn't even taking credit as news. It's "according to" and not anything as a result of investigative journalism where the writer can talk as if it is their own information.

Since all I've heard so far from 3rd party devs are good things and/or future releases (and not a single primary source saying bad things), I really feel like it's premature to assume these devs really are leaving their projects by the curb for garbage day.

In fact, it's a silly topic to even discuss in the first week… trying to say it's failing, I mean. For hardware, you really can't justifiably analyze the product until the end of the year for quality, and even then, we've seen in the past consoles not break out until it's 3rd or 4th year, and THEN run onto success.

For example: The PS2 did brutally awful in it's first year. Even worse in it's first couple weeks. Yet, lo and behold, a failure it was not.

The doom and gloom discussion at this point is straight up silly. (Not that you're strictly doom and gloom, of course. I just mean in general)


Last edited by Underdog15 on 2/16/2012 11:40:28 PM

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

One last point about your comment about us thinking this is a "nonfansite".

Although we are relatively realistic people (Jawk defends Nintendo to the death; Ben will defend a few XBOX360 exclusives to the death), that's exactly what this is.

A Sony fansite.

You're going to have to accept that fact that most people here think the Playstation brand is the best brand in gaming. And most of those same people have objective as well as subjective reasons for thinking so.

Perhaps that's where you are going wrong. You are assuming people at a Playstation site aren't going to prefer the Playstation brand.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

I think you all should value Excel a little bit more for at least offering a different perspective on things, whether you agree with him or not. He's always polite and rational in what he writes – he just doesn't write what you want to hear.
Fair enough, this is a fansite, but he's just one voice amidst a wall of "yes men".
Diversity FTW.


Last edited by Beamboom on 2/17/2012 2:56:15 AM

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

I'm pretty sure PSXE has said they don't consider themselves to be a fansite and they don't like that description. Just something to consider and it's exactly why I made that reference. I would not have made that reference in response to just a member.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

@Beamboom
I disagree with your entire post. I don't agree with any of it, and I find the "yesmen" part of it offensive. That makes it sound like no one thinks for themselves and just teams up with mother bear.

The reason people agree with each other so much is because we are of like mind on 1 solitary topic in life: video games. While this is a PS news site, it isn't a fansite in the sense that it's about fandom. However, it is specific to Playstation, so the news is for Playstation fans, whether playstation is everyone's favorite platform or not. Saying people are "yesmen" implies that we don't have minds of our own. I think it's juvenile to assume that because a large group of people agree with one another, they are somehow yesmen. If anything, we are likely just "correct". ;p But in all seriousness, we agree on not everything, but many things related to games. Bear in mind that's ONE topic in life. I'm sure there are many MANY other topics not discussed in this forum that we would disagree with each other about. In fact, I know so.

As for Excelsior always being respectful and polite, I also wholeheartedly disagree. Mind you, I'm also rarely polite so I'm not bashing him for that. But it is untrue what you write.

@Excelsior
I think you confuse the difference between a "fansite" and a news site for playstation fans. There's a pretty significant difference. One I had thought wasn't difficult to see…. Perhaps my intuition is just that much more mighty, though….. So I shouldn't assume you would get it off the bat.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

"Yes men" (a reference to "yes man", the movie with Jim Carrey) was not meant offensive, I merely meant that this site mainly consist of users who are very positive minded towards everything Sony. It's just good old fan talk. That's not a surprise to anyone is it?

Just notice how *any* post that defend Sony – no matter how irrational – receives a pile of thumbs up. Call any Sony critic "pathetic" or any news item against Sony "smear campaign" and you get showered in thumbs up.

Let fans be fans – sure – but I don't think there's anything wrong in someone voicing an alternative perspective in a community like this. I'd even call it healthy – in *any* community. It's just rarely well received.


Last edited by Beamboom on 2/17/2012 9:03:39 AM

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

On the other hand, I also sit on one committee that is open to the community. There is always one guy that offers an alternative view.

But he's so damn wrong, he just wastes our time. (I'm about 90% sure there's actually a disability there, so perhaps that's unfair to make such a comparison.)

As an fyi, my Norway friend, the Jim Carey movie was a play on words with the title. It was by far, not the origin of the phrase "yesmen". In fact, the title changed to "yes man" to be sort of… well… cute. Perhaps a better example would be 30-Rock. Have you ever seen that show? Tracy's "crew" are yesmen, doing everything they ask of him. And that's what yesmen actually are… people who side with a particular leader without ever thinking for themselves. That's why I misinterpreted your intent.

I haven't seen any irrational posts yet, aside from Vallarta's. I think this issue allows for easy skepticism. The simple fact that 1 solitary unnamed source is speaking for like a dozen 3rd party developers at once and the website to initially make it explode (not original article) is a non-fan almost anti-sony site?

I think it's WISE to be skeptical. And it gets upvotes because it's obvious. Not that Excelsior did this in this thread, but silly "alternative" views should not necessarily be accepted or respected in the name of diversity. Sometimes a bad idea or ill-conceived thought is just that.


Last edited by Underdog15 on 2/17/2012 9:18:57 AM

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

Omg – lol – I didn't know about that play with words at all. There you go – I am insulting and doesn't even know it.

Sometimes it's great to be me. 😀

I don't want to call out any names or posts specifically, that would not lead to any good at all. Plus, this is all a point of perspective too. For some, this is obviously a campaign against Sony, done by some evil minded journalists with a grudge against Sony, on a private vendetta against a Japanese hardware manufacturer. And if you look real hard, you will spot some posts that operates in the realm of such ideas. And they are often greatly rewarded with thumbs.

Others, like for instance me, would call such ideas pretty darn far fetched.


Last edited by Beamboom on 2/17/2012 9:47:42 AM

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

I don't think it's a vendetta against Sony. I don't think most media is out to get anyone. I think Ben would likely agree (at least, that's what I gather from the article).

I think it's misleading info still, but I believe the motivations are to generate hits at the site. Not to intentionally hurt Sony. And the fact is, some of these sites know their fan base love to hate the competition, so they post stuff that will get them all to come out and generate discussion which then generates more hits.

It's still a stupid concept, and I think the "unnamed source" is still bogus and talking about it is silly. I absolutely think that.

But don't think it's because I think everyone hates Sony. It is Sony bashing to an extent, I suppose, but their purpose is just to generate hits and make some moolah off GoogleAds. lol

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

Nothing I posted above warranted any personal digs. Mighty intuition that one.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

I'm pretty sure that twice above I included lines about you not doing things in this particular thread, or "not that Excelsior did that here".

But you have said things that warranted it in the past and you can be a bit abrasive.

An excellent example: "mighty intuition, that one".

I also said I can be equally as abrasive and didn't say that discredits you. I don't even think such abrasion is -always- a bad thing. But it is silly to pretend you are as polite and innocent as Beamboom suggested.


Last edited by Underdog15 on 2/17/2012 4:13:50 PM

JohnnyKey
JohnnyKey
9 years ago

I didn't see anything wrong with this post. Why did everyone go in for the kill?

DazeOfWar
DazeOfWar
9 years ago

I love how people keep saying sales are week for Vita in Japan so it's going to fail but aren't sales across the board for all gaming in Japan down lately?

I'm not worried about it failing. From what I've seen across many sites there is a lot of people wanting one. I'll definitely enjoy mine when it shows up next Wednesday.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Says the troll who can't even reply to the correct comment.