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GameStop Pushed Microsoft To Reverse Xbox One DRM?

Ooh, the cloak-and-dagger stories just keep getting more and more interesting.

As we all know by now, Microsoft has removed their offensive used game and Internet-required policies concerning the Xbox One. Some say it was nothing more than damage control, and many agree with that assessment.

But here's another angle: According to StickSkills , a GameStop employee says Microsoft may have backpedaled due in part to the following- GameStop would've ended up promoting the PlayStation 4 over the Xbox One. The used game issue was the sticking point; it's a huge part of GameStop's business, of course, and they probably weren't big fans of the pre-owned DRM on tap for the Xbox One. In fact, we know they weren't.

As a result, GameStop employees were told they should push the PS4 as much as possible. There was a rumor floating around that the retailer refused to stock up on Xbox One units, even going so far as to tell customers they were sold out of pre-orders. So perhaps this is what ultimately prompted GameStop to go back on their ridiculous mandates. Well, whatever. In my opinion, Microsoft has already showed their hand and I didn't like it. They ain't gettin' my money.

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WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

It was probably part of the equation, I figured the love affair between Gamestoppo and MS would end if they went through with these policies.

Now we can all rest assured that we will be hearing from our local Gamestops that Killzone: Shadow Fall and inFamous: Second Son will be coming to Xbox 180 and will "be better".

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

Lol! They told my friend Bioshock Infinite was a 360 exclusive. Idiots.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

for Pete's sake

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
11 years ago

Jawknee, just because your an employee working at a game video store doesn't mean your going to have all the correct answers, so sometimes it is a split fault between the consumers and employees. And, originally the 2 Bioshock games were exclusive to the 360, it started getting ported to the PS3, I don't know when back but it seems that the devs wanted to have a hold on a larger audience for more profit. So really the *idiots* could be either both the consumers or employees if they don't know what their talking about in the first place.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 6/22/2013 2:46:39 PM

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

Oh come on dude, my friend walked in and asked for a PS3 copy and dude straight up said it was a 360 exclusive. There's no way the worker didn't know Bioshock Infinite was multiplatform. Only the first Bioshock game was a timed exclusive at the beginning of this generation. Bioshock 2 was released on both platforms simultaneously. The dude was a liar. And if he honestly didn't know it was on both platforms he's a moron and shouldn't be working for a video game store.


Last edited by Jawknee on 6/22/2013 4:26:58 PM

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
11 years ago

Okay, yah that does sound bad. Luckily for me, it's been a pleasent experience except for the old two video game stores that I used go to, before gamestop hit big.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 6/23/2013 1:07:15 AM

Ather
Ather
11 years ago

Not cool lieing to customers Gamestop.

MeXiCaNFiGhTe12
MeXiCaNFiGhTe12
11 years ago

From a business stand point they did the right thing, but damm what a Pu$$y move.

PC_Max
PC_Max
11 years ago

I think at this point it does not matter. There seems to be a lot of in-fighting going on the internet over this whole thing. Its done its over… let it goooo. Make your decision and move on. Ultimately people will by one or both consoles… based on games. Humans these day have an attention span for issues like a fart in the wind. They won't care when launch day is upon them and all the commercials will be about one and other console and all the games. Consumerism training will kick in.

MS did not listen to the people, they listen to sound of debit cards, credit cards and cash tills dinging to the sound of PS4 pre-orders. So what? They made a smart business move…. and Xboxters got what all gamers wanted. Does the end justify the reason? Decide with you purchase.. but it all in the end DOES come to the games. And assuredly people will compare multiplat games between consoles… and then the glorious, hopefully, exclusives.

I seem to be hearing people now saying they are buying both, not necessarily at the same time, so it comes down to which one they want to buy first.

Keep Playing!

mk ultra
mk ultra
11 years ago

Wait, so you're saying the road traveled doesn't matter as long as the end result is satisfactory? And people should just let go and forgive what they tried to do? I agree it all comes down to the games. But I would never buy a console, no matter how good the library of games is, that trespasses on what I consider fundamental liberties. Just like I would never sell out on my beliefs, no matter how much money you offered me.

PC_Max
PC_Max
11 years ago

Umm what I am saying is many people have a short attention span to news. Like the headlines in the paper. If your an Xbox enthusiast and are down right upset about it….. then sure make your decision based on your anger. If you can live without whatever MS comes out with. Fine. But I think many will in the longterm… move on and get the system. I've seen people get bitter over things… trivial, mundane or downright seriouse… but in the longterm… they forget about after and then slowly perhaps, but surely go back.

And don't bring up liberties and your rights when it comes to another debs or publishers game. You buy the honour and the privelege to play it. Yes, you can choose not to play it or buy it for that matter. But you do not have a right to it. Once you buy it sure you can play it or give it to a friend. But it does not mean you can do whatever you want to the content. Gee such as rip the soundtrack or take elements of the game and do crap with it. Not without the permission of the person who created it. Unless you think THEY give oup THEIR rights to THEIR game or soundtrack when you purchase a "copy " of it. Geez you probably think when you go to a movie theature and purchase a ticket to see… say Superman, that you have the right to record it or have the soundtrack for free.

So please don't give me the whole I have a right to do what I want crap or that your are entitled. Sony and MS have allowed you to now distribute your official copy of a game. Don't abuse the privilege.

Get on with it. Buy the console for whatever reason your justify to buy or not to buy and play your games. Should be thanking them and the devs for creating something you can enjoy.

Oh…. and keep playing!

mk ultra
mk ultra
11 years ago

Wow, lol, please don't make wild assumptions about me because your reading comprehension is low. I never mentioned having a right to do anything. I said liberties. Look it up its a different word. And I said what I consider fundamental liberties. I do not believe violating copyright laws is a fundamental liberty. I know how software works, we don't own the game, we enter a license agreement to own a copy of it. If I believed what you are insinuating I would have a problem with every video game console in history. They have always allowed us to distribute our own copy of the game, which is why I have such a problem with what MS tried to do, and I don't forgive and forget so easily. But like you said, i'll do my talking with my wallet, and MS is not getting a penny from me, in any of their divisions, not just Xbox.


Last edited by mk ultra on 6/23/2013 6:32:35 PM

Neo
Neo
11 years ago

"So perhaps this is what ultimately prompted GameStop to go back on their ridiculous mandates."

Don't you mean Microsoft, or am I misunderstanding something?

frylock25
frylock25
11 years ago

thats what i was also wondering when i read that. i believed it to be a typo but i had to reread to make sure cuz it didnt make sense.

Darwin1967
Darwin1967
11 years ago

I didn't experience that at all in my last visit to GameStop to place a pre-order for the PS4. IN fact, that sales person told me the PS4 was outselling the Xbone 2 to one….that they were quite flush in xb1 availability but that PS4 pre-orders had to be re-stocked. He didn't forsee that problem with the xbox. I don't think Gs had anything to do with M$ reversal in any way shape or form other than realizing that their pre-order numbers were abysmal and by all accounts trailing in every way possible to the PS4 across all markets… when they realized that consumers weren't buying their bs they had no choice but to turn the xbone into the xb180.

Kryten1029a
Kryten1029a
11 years ago

I think that you may underestimate the leverage that Gamestop has. They manage to sell nearly half of all NEW games sold in the U.S. and they move a lot of hardware as well. They're a huge factor in the industry and antagonizing them was just one more stupid Microsoft decision to throw on the pile. Someone in Redmond should have anticipated that Gamestop wouldn't just roll over and take this. As the saying goes, "You should never kick a tiger in the ass unless you have a plan for dealing with his teeth" and Microsoft clearly hadn't taken the time to think this through.

Darwin1967
Darwin1967
11 years ago

You're right, GS is huge and M$ are utter boneheads for going forward with their 'plan' despite internet outrage…and it still took them a week post E3 to figure out that they were losing big time…personally, I think they just don't give a damn and like they (M$) often do, ignore consumer wants and preference, and instead attempt to manufacture what they think we need/want…you often can't negotiate with that kind of stupid, but I am sure GameStop was able to tip the scales, at least in reporting back to M$ distributors that they had best be prepared to be outsold by Sony.

Gamer46
Gamer46
11 years ago

I went to GameStop the day after E3 to put money down for a PS4 and there were some other people who walked in after me and the guys behind the counter seemed to make it a point to push both systems very hard. So if GameStop was that disgusted with MS, I wasn't noticing it. Regardless, PS4 will be enough for me for a good long while. I'm waiting at least 3 years before considering an Xbox One because I still don't trust MS that a lot of this bs, like that idiotic 24-hour check-in, won't be coming back once the machine is in enough homes.


Last edited by Gamer46 on 6/22/2013 12:08:59 AM

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

"They ain't gettin' my money."

Amen.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
11 years ago

I second that.

kraygen
kraygen
11 years ago

what else would you expect gamestop to do, they been telling lies for MS for years, now MS wants to pull the rug out from under them, gamestop wasn't going to sit back and watch.

mk ultra
mk ultra
11 years ago

I thought about this when MS announced their DRM scheme. It seems to me that MS would have recognised GS as one of their loudest crows, and would have anticipated their move. Could MS really be that dumb?


Last edited by mk ultra on 6/22/2013 3:52:29 AM

Kryten1029a
Kryten1029a
11 years ago

I'm not being (entirely) sarcastic here but go back and look at what they've done over the last couple of months. The Don Mattrick interview with Geoff Keighley or Angry Joe interviewing Major Nelson. They really ARE that dumb!

mk ultra
mk ultra
11 years ago

Oh, I know, that was meant as a rhetorical question. In all honesty, I think MS really isn't that dumb. I think they knew what the possible repercussions were when they announced their plans. They were just trying to pull a fast one on us hoping no one noticed, or were too outspoken about it. Kinda like what happened in the US with the Patriot Act about ten years ago. I think if Sony came out with the same plan (and rumor has it they were about to) it wouldn't have mattered how many people complained. Enough people would have swallowed it for it to reach critical mass. Meaning no amount of bitching by the actually informed would reverse the situation. And overnight we would become the minority.

___________
___________
11 years ago

yay, like i needed another reason to hate them!

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

You hate everything so you never need a reason to hate anything.

___________
___________
11 years ago

thats nice.

Mamills
Mamills
11 years ago

very probable, PS all the way.
matter of fact i would grab a Wii U over that oversized paperweight.

Ninjaman
Ninjaman
11 years ago

I can believe this. I was at GameStop 2 days ago talking to an employee that I see regularly about the new consoles and we got to talking about the preorder situation. He said that the Xbox one preorders were sold out the day they could take them and that for some odd reason, corporate didn't add more to the preorder stock for over a week.

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