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Did Microsoft’s Damage Control Change Your View Of Xbox One?

It had to happen, didn't it? But does that change your stance?

On the surface it should: Microsoft has announced today that its rescinding its controversial policies for the Xbox One. Specifically, the "24-hour online check-in" and the restriction of used games.

Now, it has been confirmed that next-gen Xbox will not impose any restrictions on pre-owned games; you can buy them, trade them in, and share them with your friends at your leisure. And after the initial system setup, you won't have to be connected online to play offline games. So, that's all good, right? Doesn't that change your viewpoint entirely? I mean, it's pretty similar to the PlayStation 4 now, right? Well, not so fast…

The Xbox One is still $100 more. Developers have been proclaiming their love of the PS4's architecture for months, several saying it's up to 50% more powerful than Microsoft's console. PlayStation Plus offers more in the way of valuable perks (in my eyes) with early access to betas, discounts and free games, cloud storage, etc. as compared to Xbox Live. The edge in exclusive software will inevitably fall in Sony's favor if it hasn't already. But above and beyond all that, can we really forget Microsoft's initial plan for their new system? Did that not say something?

Did they listen to feedback or did they simply bow to immense consumer pressure? Is this really about pleasing your fans, or is it about panic and damage control? The original announcement showed such a shocking detachment; i.e., it proved to me that Microsoft knows little about what gamers really want and worse, that they don't really care . They lost me right then and there. They could package the Xbox One with a diamond-encrusted controller and I still wouldn't buy it now. …well, okay, maybe I would then. But after hocking the controller, I'd return the system.

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Fabi
Fabi
11 years ago

You're asking the wrong crowd I think. You know 90% of people on here never planned to get a Xbone, even if it was cheaper than the PS4.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

53% of IGN's readership are voting the same way as we speak.

Akuma_
Akuma_
11 years ago

Amazon should re-post that poll now.

Bonampak
Bonampak
11 years ago

Yeah I don't think anyone here will change their mind.

However, I did notice that many service men in the military got upset about the whole 24 online check-up deal and they issued a formal complaint with MS. Apparently, Xbox consoles are their console of choice (because its from an American company it seems) and that got the whole ball rolling for what eventually happened today. Lets not forget that the US has been Xbox land this gen. And MS probably didn't want to hurt their chances by having American service men bad-mouthing them.

This new development may also affect us in the sense that EA might go back to implementing their online pass system.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

Yea but our servicemen are a small part of their customer base. They share one Xbox to a unit. Most of their consumer base is made up of our fellow nerds. I think this move has more to do with Sony giving em no choice than it does with a worry they're pissing off military people.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

It just seems wrong to have an Xbox as the military's go-to machine. It's the opposite of a G.I., not tough or versatile or resilient or of any quality.

Bonampak
Bonampak
11 years ago

@Jawknee – Pissing them off was a PR disaster that made MS look seriously detached from reality. And even insensitively stupid. Especially after MS replied to them with: "Well, you can always get a 360".

Thing is, they got no support even from their own user base. One of the most notorious Xbox nerds, Youtube's Angry Joe, was very vocal about his disapproval of what was going on with the Xbone. And he even confronted Major Nelson about it.

And then GameStop execs started talking crap about the Xbone and instructing GS employees to inform costumers about the Xbone's restrictions and DRM's.

Absolutely nothing was going their way. MS had to either ignore the hate or do a 180.

And that's why we now have the Xbox ONE-EIGHTY 😉


Last edited by Bonampak on 6/19/2013 11:43:27 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

Indeed, all in favor of adding "Xbox 180" to "Xbone"?

matt99
matt99
11 years ago

Xbox 180 it is.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

Yes but what I'm telling you is the grumbling from servicemen likely wasn't a major factor in their decision. They're such a small part of their user base it's more likely the rest of the bad PR and preorder numbers shifting to Sony is what caused them to reverse course. Quite honestly I don't think they give a damn about our servicemen. That's why Mattricks response was buy a 360. It wasn't until the backlash from their core consumer base grew did they change their tune.

BTNwarrior
BTNwarrior
11 years ago

not sure about other divisions but going to 3 different bases in the air force I have met alot more people with ps3's than 360's

Cpt_Geez
Cpt_Geez
11 years ago

Microsoft hasn't changed my mind I'm sticking with the ps4.

To Be Decided
To Be Decided
11 years ago

They still haven't changed there indie policies but even if they did that. Doubt I'll ever get an Xbox to begin with.

Temjin001
Temjin001
11 years ago

Have you seen Titanfall? I mean have you seen TITANFALL? PS what now? Just look at Titanfall.

It does change my view a bit. Before the change it felt extremely unlikely I'd ever go XboxOne, like ever. Now it just needs to sell me on the buy in value of the hardware and a pile of great exclusives. Something that has yet to happen for me. I only need Gran Turismo for my racing-sim needs so Forza doesn't do nothing for me. Don't care whatsoever for Insomniac's shooter. Titanfall is an online shooter I'd never play, like nearly every online shooter. Really, it's just Halo, which is a big reason, and small pleasant offerings of Crimson Dragon and Killer Instinct. But that's about it. Wii U even has a bigger distribution of titles I'd like between my family and I. Namely Mario Kart, the new Sonic, 3D World Mario, Zelda Windwaker, Donkey Kong, Monolith's 'X' jrpg (this looks incredible, maybe console selling big), Bayonetta 2, and possibly Pikmin 3. It's like platformer heaven on Nintendo's side and not a ONE of them is a shooter.

EDIT: I suppose there's one shooter that's inevitable, Metroid. But that's more of a thinking man's shooter, not so much in the stealth sort of way, but in the exploration-puzzle solving kind of way.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 6/19/2013 10:29:25 PM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
11 years ago

I saw it.

It's a shooter.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
11 years ago

Titanfall? Are you talking about Microsoft?

Simcoe
Simcoe
11 years ago

Yeah so, it's also releasing on PC too. It's one of those type of "exclusives".

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

And 360.

Akuma_
Akuma_
11 years ago

And the developer has publicly expressed a strong desire to develop the game for the PS4, with their publisher immediately shutting him up and saying "We can't talk about any future releases at this time"

Timed exclusive.

Temjin001
Temjin001
11 years ago

hehe I was trying to reference this..

“I don’t really think… we’re not going to change anything. We’re very happy with what we’ve done with Xbox One. Did you see the games on stage. Did you see the exclusives? I mean, we’re really, really proud of the system and the games that are coming out. When you look at games like TitanFall, did you see TitanFall? Okay, enough said. Conversation over.” –Major Nelson a few days ago =p

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

I think Titanfall looks plenty fun and I'll be happy to buy it from the bargain bin when it comes to PS4 (cuz it will trust me).

Temjin001
Temjin001
11 years ago

but isn't Titanfall online only?

Troy Powers
Troy Powers
11 years ago

I agree, Titanfall looks really cool. Of course I'm going PS4 from launch, but if Titanfall lives up to expectations and Xbox One delivers a couple other good exclusives, I could be convinced to buy it after a price drop or two. Having to pay for a second online service could hold me back though.

Simcoe
Simcoe
11 years ago

Oh Temjin, I thought you might be trying to be facetious, especially when you contradicted yourself, but I just figured that was a typo. Man, sarcasm is tough to judge on the interwebs sometimes; although, quotes would have helped!

Initially, I wasn't too thrilled with what I saw with Titanfall during the MS presentation, but after watching a different trailer (possibly a play-through) during the (I think) EA presentation, I thought it might be kind of cool. So many times, it seems that Mech type of games just don't work out, but I think Titanfall might get the recipe right this time.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

I don't think it's online only like MAG but there was some shady intonations that it might use cloud computing so that would make it have to be online. Too early to tell.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

No. It only confirms my worst impressions of the company. They tried to pull a fast one and only changed their tune when they saw their flock herding to Sony. Had Sony had similar policies or had their preorder numbers been better, you can bet MS wouldn't have backpedaled. Seems to me they're just trying to clean their bloodied nose.

matt99
matt99
11 years ago

One theory I heard was that they had info that Sony was also planning on implementing similar policies but then when they saw the gamer response to the xboxone reveal they canned them at the last minute.

Personally I think Sony cares more about the gamer, or at least knows that if they put the gamer first then they will make more money.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
11 years ago

They have to dial tune anything that they see is negative, (like you said pull a fast one) which in this case the DRM, their afraid to lose their fan base because of that. So in all, it's the smart thing to do. Sony has nothing to be worry about, the playstation brand dominates worldwide.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
11 years ago

No. MS caved into the pressure that was building post E3. The department heads can't be pleased with all the internet reports about PS4 dominating polls and pre-orders.

Throw in the fact that the Killzone Shadowfall demo would have pushed the XBOne to edge of its performance limit (per IGN), things are not looking good for MS.

Or perhaps they don't like how the 360 is in last place…

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

And we still really don't know how Xbone games will perform given all their E3 demos were on windows 7 pc gaming rigs.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
11 years ago

Oh Jawknee, people don't care about MS software not running on the XBOne while pretending to.

/sarcasm

Simcoe
Simcoe
11 years ago

I know I read the reports (and seen the picture) of Xbox one games running on Windows 7 rigs with Nvidia graphics cards, but did they say if those PC had Intel or AMD processors? Because if they were Intel processors, the irony would be hilarious.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

The most entertaining part of all this is CliffyB's panties are all in a wad over this reversal. He's wetting himself on Twitter. Lol, dudes profile states he's the "Tony Stark of gaming". What a joke.

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
11 years ago

I can't stand that guy. lol

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
11 years ago

Hes a douche. Dont know him personally (obviously) but he acts like one.

FatherSun
FatherSun
11 years ago

The "B" is for bitch. 90% of the things I read about him is him bitching about something.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

He's the South Park Timmy of gaming.

Jaylynn
Jaylynn
11 years ago

Microsoft is basically saying "yeah we f@%*ed up, can you buy our system now?" They can't dig themselves out of this one and whose to say they won't change their minds again.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

They say they're going to remove these restrictions with a day one update. Who's to say they won't reimpose them with another update later on?

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
11 years ago

You know what? You STILL need an internet connection with the XBOne. Those without one? Sorry.

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
11 years ago

Really? So the complaints from those without a home internet connection will still not be able to buy one because to remove the restriction… you need an internet connection.

That's funny in a screwed up kinda way.

FatherSun
FatherSun
11 years ago

They will wait until the install base grows and then attempt to ease rise DRMs back into the mix. It is inevitable.

Kryten1029a
Kryten1029a
11 years ago

Xbone buyers would have to login once to register, but wouldn't have to do so again. Still not ideal, but that's a huge concession on Microsoft's part. It's not enough to make up for the damage that their arrogance and condescension has caused but it's at least an acknowledgement on their part of how stupid they were.

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
11 years ago

No, they're intentions were bad.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

I just realized your gigantic avatar is Joel and Elle. 🙂


Last edited by Jawknee on 6/19/2013 10:54:12 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

Please tell me how you keep your avatar from being resized. Now.

tes37
tes37
11 years ago

World

Sometimes when people load an avatar from a mobile device it's larger than they realize because it displays normal to them.

Start with a higher resolution image and size it yourself. You can re-size by percentage or pixel count

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

Me no understand. All I know is I can't make anything larger than 80×80 or the site resizes it for me. Makes it hard to show lengthwise avatars.

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
11 years ago

Ummmm…. I still see the Mr. with a "happy" face??? I'm confused

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
11 years ago

Fixed 🙂

I guess its stays big if you upload through a mobile device, which I did do.

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