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What Would Make A PlayStation Fan Buy The Xbox 720?

The latest news is that Microsoft's new console might launch in spring 2014, which isn't that far off if you really think about it.

And depending on how you interpret Sony's most recent comments concerning the PlayStation 4, it's feasible that the Xbox 720 will be on store shelves before Sony's next hardware effort. If that's the case, what will make PlayStation followers spring for Microsoft's console in the new generation?

I suppose the question is a difficult one, as it entirely depends on the point of view: If you're a hardcore gamer and make it your mission to own every new piece of hardware, than it's a no-brainer. If, on the other hand, you're a bit more selective in your game spending, you're going to consider a number of factors. Firstly, did you have the Xbox 360 this generation and if so, how much use did you get out of it? Secondly, are you at all concerned that the 360's well-documented and downright catastrophic failure rates upon first launching will be a problem again? Will history repeat itself? Thirdly, the all-important price.

But beyond that, is Sony at any risk of losing fans after this generation? It seems to me – just in taking a quick survey of friends and acquaintances – that most are pretty darn pleased with how the PS3 came out, and are content with remaining pleased for quite some time. We've still got major PS3 exclusives on the horizon ( Beyond: Two Souls , The Last Of Us , God of War: Ascension , etc.) and let's face it, top-notch exclusive software is the haven of Sony. Unless, of course, a fantastic launch lineup for the 720 totally blows you away…that's always possible, right?

I think a lot of people are satisfied with the PS3 and furthermore, they believe the system has more to offer. They think Sony gave them what they wanted over the past five or six years, and I'm not sure if Microsoft did anything supremely special to lure ardent PlayStation followers away. The PSN is still free (Live still isn't), we've already got Blu-Ray, the games are definitely here (and more are coming), and heck, the PS3 might not even be that far behind the 720 in terms of sheer power. Who knows what Sony's machine really is capable of? I know I'm making a case for not buying the 720 but hey, I'm probably getting one.

I've had the Xbox and Xbox 360 and while neither was played anywhere near as often as the PS2 or PS3, I figure I need two consoles per generation. …and the Wii U really isn't cutting it for me.

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CaptRon
CaptRon
12 years ago

Nothing will ever make me buy an Xbox. Microsoft gets my money every time a Windows comes out. That's all they get. And I probably wouldn't even do that if I had another option besides linux and apple.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
12 years ago

That's one of the things I hate about M$, they stole ideas from Apple.

richfiles
richfiles
12 years ago

Who got the ideas from Xerox Parc…
Who got the ideas from Doug Engelbart and the Human Augmented Intellect Research Center at Stanford Research Institute from WAY back in 1968.

manofchao5
manofchao5
12 years ago

honestly ideas are always bought or borrowed, but I can't say if I would buy the xbox 720 or not based on what I know now, but if they keep their current business model of paying to play online, I'm not very likely to own their console, I do not wish to pay to play online, if the actual game developer can offer and experience worthy of paying for their server usage at a decent rate yes, but giving money just to go online, yeah no screw you microsuck

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
12 years ago

If the new Xbox offered more RPGs that I like (JRPGs) than the PS4 I would jump ship I think. Having said that the PS3 (and this generation of gaming) has really let me down when it comes to RPGs.

I don't think I will jump ship though since Sony offers far more actual exclusives then MS and the lack of RPGs seems to plague every console.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
12 years ago

"If the new Xbox offered more RPGs that I like (JRPGs) than the PS4"

And the chances of that are…? 😉

Although I do agree.

Temjin001
Temjin001
12 years ago

Kotaku has a current running article on Nintendo and jRPGs.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/20/great-responsibility-nintendos-role-as-a-leader-in-japanese-rp/
Maybe the Wii U will be the place to be for those types?

TheAgingHipster
TheAgingHipster
12 years ago

That's the big selling point for me, too–the games. I have a 360, but I hardly ever play it because the exclusives are virtually non-existent outside of the shooter realm, and the multiplatform titles are played on my PS3 for the controller. If the 720 has rockin' exclusives and a significant improvement in hardware reliability, I'll buy one.

That being said… I'll never completely jump ship. Sony knows how to please their fans and supports a wider variety of gaming experiences, which is really nice in this overly homogenized game market.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
12 years ago

@ Limited

360 did have Lost Odyssey at first, don't forget, one of the best (and only) JRPG's on the 360. Sure, it didn't sell cos the 360 belongs to the shooter crowd, but it did have that 1 really good one!

@ Aging Hipster

I'm the same, except for shooters. Nearly all shooters, 1st or 3rd person, I get on 360. Everything else, racers, platformers, music games, RPG's, action adventure games, I get all those on PS3. Plus, PS3 has more and better exclusives in my opinion.

Heck, when I had to first choose between buying a PS3 or 360, I almost went with 360 cos it had Gears of War, Mass Effect, Halo 3 and all multiplats at the time ran better on 360. GTA IV in the PS3 bundle changed my mind. I'm so happy with my PS3!! 🙂

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
12 years ago

I found out about Lost Odyssey after my 360 died. I'd love to try it out someday, maybe when the 360 drops in price.

I know Ben, pretty sad that the PSP and DS have been my go to gaming devices for RPGs this generation of gaming.

Tem I'm not a fan of Nintendo anymore…I don't see anything I like about the WiiU.

richfiles
richfiles
12 years ago

I gotta agree that Nintendo has been the RPG king of this generation. My DS, and later, 3DS is my second most played system, thanks to great classic RPGs like Chrono Trigger. Nintendo has seen fit to release some impressively unique RPG experiences. The PS3 is a wonderful piece of hardware, but I have no trust or faith in the decency of Sony as a company, not after they stole from me the most powerful computer in my house by removing Other OS. They also have poor customer relations. BACKUP your data. I give MAJOR credit to Microsoft on one point. THey treat your saved data as a precious thing. They allow hard drive swapping, let you send a system in, but keep your hard drive, and even make the data transfer cable. Sony is much less caring for your data. Locking it down so you can't copy some of your saves, and having NO RECOURSE of recovery, if your system fails, and locking drives to hardware, so you can't swap.

At least Nintendo has the SD card slot for save data.

Nintendo wins this round for RPGs. Sony only follows because the system is better than 360, and I like Fallout and Skyrim.

Doppel
Doppel
12 years ago

What would make me buy a 720?

I personally wouldn't, because I invested so much time and money on my PSN account. And I really love my PSN name. 😛

Hopefully the PS4 would still remain Free for basic online play. I'm a plus subscriber at the moment, but you got to appreciate PSN's free online play.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

It's nice that Plus finally pays for itself and then some. I never thought they'd give us full budget games and now there's a bunch of em.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
12 years ago

U nailed it right their, PSN.

Hynad
Hynad
12 years ago

Microsoft has a lot of catch up to do when it comes to first party exclusives.

Yeah, I really like the Fable series, but Halo and Forza? Not so much.

They have very little to convince me I should own their system and theirs only.

Sony has awesome first party studios that this gen, at least for me, surpassed those from Nintendo.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
12 years ago

Forza 4's handling of the Top Gear license was far better than that of GT 5's.

Apart from that, GT 5 was the better racer of the two. Forza 4 has more mainstream appeal while GT 5 caters more to the real car-loving crowd.

Sunni_Boi
Sunni_Boi
12 years ago

I agree dance, id take Forza 4 over Gran Turismo 5 anyday. I used to love Gran Turismo, but the older I get the more of an casual gamer I become.

MrAnonymity
MrAnonymity
12 years ago

Not even an energy drink dispenser attachment would convince me to buy an XBOX in any form. As far as I am concerned, if Sony dies off or really gives their loyal fans the big "F-U" then I am done with gaming.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
12 years ago

Nintendo? 🙂

Mr_Sterg
Mr_Sterg
12 years ago

HAHA wow. COmplete fan

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
12 years ago

If that's the case, I'm going back to Nintendo which started it all for me.

ZettaiSeigi
ZettaiSeigi
12 years ago

As much as I'd like to play some of the Xbox exclusives (e.g. Alan Wake, Gears of War, Fable I and II), I really dislike anything that has Microsoft's hand on it. Might be a silly idea, I know, but that's just me.

bebestorm
bebestorm
12 years ago

Yes I would buy would a 720 because Ive never been a gamer that has brand attachment I love playing good games so why limit myself. I bought a 360 for Lost Odssey and few other games but today I no longer own one.

DarthNemesis
DarthNemesis
12 years ago

Exclusive games,but I won't hold my breath.

wackazoa
wackazoa
12 years ago

Exactly… only reason I bought my PS2 was squaresoft. Only reason I bought PSP at launch was Grand Theft Auto.( Although I still havent forgiven Rockstar for that.)

Xbox you want my money. Have exclusives that I would want to play. Pay huge money to Bethesda to have TES exclusive games. Pay Rocksatr big money. Otherwise there is no reason I would switch. Unless Sony does something stupid like make me pay to play online.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
12 years ago

So you're saying you would switch if Sony started making you pay to play online, when you'd be switching to a company that already does that? Hmm. Not sure I understand the logic?

wackazoa
wackazoa
12 years ago

Depends on who is cheaper for the consoles. But more likely I'd switch to PC.

tes37
tes37
12 years ago

I have no interest whatsoever in MS consoles. They don't make any games that I want to play now and I'm certain they will continue that trend.

Temjin001
Temjin001
12 years ago

I fall into the "no brainer" category. I don't know really why it is exactly, but I basically always get hardware that is trying to appeal to my interests, and if it has quality software to back itself up, of course. The earliest Christmas I can remember had my family receiving an Atari 2600. Ever since then, no matter who was making the console, or where it was coming from, if it had hot games, we got it. I didn't really have a conditioned bias onset from childhood. I would observe kids and peers who could only have one system so they made themselves feel better by resolving that the didn't want any other system and built hardened emotional boundaries around themselves, seemingly into adult hood, just to further placate that early emotional bias, at least that's how it seemed to me. I remember kids who intentionally hated on FFVII because it was on PLaystation and not on a Nintendo platform. Old arguments over cartridge and CD's haha. Thankfully, my older brother always had the money to get whatever system was hot and the games to go with it. Anyway, so as long as the next Xbox isn't some radical departure that's far removed from my core interests, I'll be on board. DOn't know if I'll hop on right away, seeing that MS had such poor quality control over their hardware during 360's initial years. But either way, I can expect killer apps by killer devs.

firesoul453
firesoul453
12 years ago

If they want me to get one of those then they would need to release tons of awesome games that I can't get anywhere else.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

Microsoft shouldn't be making hardware period. What would get me to buy one? It would have to be a rock solid machine without RROD and offer much needed gaming experiences that Playstation doesn't and it's hard to see that happening. It would have to come with a dinosaur too.

I think the 720 will be almost purely for 3rd party software and there's no reason to own hardware for that when the PS3 and PS4 offer all the same 3rd party games plus pulse pounding exclusives.


Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 6/20/2012 10:14:10 PM

Temjin001
Temjin001
12 years ago

pffft, so you're saying you don't want the lastest CoD expansions FIRST? Are you saying you don't want a SUPERIOR Xbox LIVE digital entertainment service COMPLETE with cross-chat play, offering you all of the latest tv networks and Gold Member exclusive deals? Are you saying you don't want to see Halo 6 or 7? jeesh man, what the crap? Until then, try to have fun NOT playing the latest MS Kinect sensation, Steel Batalion: Heavy Armor. =p

(written from my Windows 8 surface tablet)

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

Hahaha. Surfaaaaaaaace!

frylock25
frylock25
12 years ago

games. exclusive games. that is about it. that being said i dont really think M$ has it in them to keep games exclusive. they really dont seem to care about anything but making sony look bad. they dont even do a good job of that either. sony offers a diverse library of games.

im really not impressed with the 2 xbox incarnations so far and i dont feel that i will be the next time. almost everything that they had exclusive they lost.

Ydobon
Ydobon
12 years ago

Even though I can't really consider myself a ps fan. I'm more a fan of gaming. I skipped both xbox and 360 because of failure rates. Despite that, there are some games that I would like to play that are only available on those systems. I'm praying xbox 720 is at least fully backwards compatible to 360 or to all of them which I highly doubt it. Not buying it day one and hoping failure rates are non existent. Only getting live gold if I really have to. Reminds me of PS plus except without all the cool benefits -___-. One thing I'm looking forward to is the internet explorer.

The wii u will be my first day one purchase for a console ever. Extremely excited and I can't wait to see what developers are going to do with it. Not getting move or kinetic, they simply don't care so the future of those add on systems are going no where.

I'm happy with my ps3 so sony can take their sweet time for ps4. DON'T rush it and no high price even though I probably pay it regardless. I think the market right now is pretty much set in stone and they won't recapture the crowd that enjoyed ps2. Then jumped over to xbox. This goes vice-versa. So in my opinion, there is absolutely nothing that would make a ps fan buy xbox if they haven't already.

Gordo
Gordo
12 years ago

The only way I would end up with a xbox is if it was free when I bought a TV or something. No way would I put good money down for it.

I would rather stick with my Vita than that!

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
12 years ago

There's a few games that I'd have liked to play on the 360, but there was far more I wanted to play on my PS3, and I just can't afford both. I see that happening again next gen, but only if Sony isn't far behind MS in launching a system. The 360 had a huge advantage and every developer was more than familiar with it by the time the PS3 released and I see a trend that some developers just didn't want to take the time to get everything right. That can't happen again.

Sony still has a very strong first party lineup, and that's something MS doesn't have and won't gain in the time from now until next spring.

But I've always liked the Playstations, it's all I need really.


Last edited by bigrailer19 on 6/20/2012 10:48:58 PM

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
12 years ago

As a gaming collector, I'd have to buy one just for collection purposes.

As a Gamer, & even though I'm all about the Playstation brand name, I'd still buy a 720, if it even has any exclusives left after it comes out.

But…..since I'm a massive hater of M$ due to their unscrupulous ways & lack of business ethics so anything I buy from them(other than already computer -installed), will be "Used" only(except for "Live" cards which I will only buy when they're on sale for $35 at Amazon, etc), so M$ will never get to see another penny from from me.

BTW, my original Xbox was bought as a "used refurb" & is still kicking it just fine.

And I only bought my COD MW2 360 "new" because I couldn't trust a used machine not to RROD, or that the former 360 didn't abuse the hell out of it.
Plus it had the newer Jasper chipset in it & it's still doing fine, although I usually only use it anymore to sample games I buy for the collection, and a whole lot of Netflix.

And since it was actually somebody else's pre-order that I talked my GS guys into selling to me, I loved the thought that I just might've taken this machine away from one of those trash-talking Bozo's we all hate.


Last edited by BikerSaint on 6/20/2012 10:59:14 PM

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
12 years ago

Gears & Alan wake are not enough
I'll stay where the games are!

Metal Head
Metal Head
12 years ago

I have the money, but I will never ever buy an Xbox or Nintendo console. Xbox is successful because developers get a huge chunk of money from Microsoft. I don't have alot of time to game as I did. I'm having trouble keeping up with my gaming library. Playstation is the only brand that offers the most diverse library in gaming history period.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
12 years ago

Gran Turismo going to the XBox.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
12 years ago

That was suppose to be a question.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
12 years ago

Ben asked what it would take for someone to buy an XBox, and that was my answer.

Since everyone knows GT will never make an appearance on an XBox, that means I will never own one.

Again.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
12 years ago

ok

ulsterscot
ulsterscot
12 years ago

Yes I'll grab one to fill the space in my cabinet beside the PS4.

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

Not a damn thing. The company as a whole blows hardcore. I have never been satisfied with any product I've owned made by MS. I went in half with a friend for a 360 when it launched, I learned my lesson. Never again. I'm about ready to sell my Vaio and replace it with a Mac because I am so dissatisfied with Windows 7 and how crappy it's running after the 200+ updates from MS since I've had the damn thing.


Last edited by Jawknee on 6/20/2012 11:41:17 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

I would do that too but I don't understand Macs, as Spock would say they are illogical.

Qubex
Qubex
12 years ago

Jawk, I get what you are saying about Windows generally, but I want to raise a few points. These have been experienced and dealt with over time.

Regarding Windows performance – I cannot assume whether or not you are an "experienced" Windows OS user, however, I can speak for myself and my experience as a whole.

I feel very strongly that Windows XP was M$ best OS to date. After using it for a number of years I really got to understand how to set it up the way I wanted it to work. One of the criteria was to find ways to manage Windows Services.

I really optimised the experience, turning off everything I didn't need running from "start-up". I de-skinned XP, and removed all visual trickery. I set it up to be almost Linux-like.

The result was an extremely responsive OS, that booted up in less than 20 seconds from a cold boot. On my older 4gig laptop, by the time Windows XP had booted, checking Task Manager, the system (whilst idle), used a poultry 289mb of system ram. Click on start and launching reasonably sized applications was close to instant. There was no grinding of the hard disk.

I have done similarly for Windows 7. I have my version flying after de-skinning and removing the "plug in and play" elements of the OS; meaning I tell it what I want it to do rather than it automating things and popping up requesters and the like.

Issue is you have to spend time to learn and optimise the system. Frankly, the majority of home users don't have time to do this nor do they know how to do it. I guess you need to be in that geek realm.

So whilst I can understand were you are coming from, and agree somewhat; M$ has made software that is essentially open and flexible. Not as open as Linux, but close enough if you know what you are doing.

I have no objection using Windows, only because I know how to optimise it and manage it…

Also Windows 8 RT doesn't seem slow to me. Looks like some elements of v8 have been re-engineered from the ground up and I think it will be even more responsive than both Windows XP and Windows 7.

Generally I don't think M$ is all bad as many people opposed to them make them out to be. What they do they do reasonably "well". They know how to make money, and in the end their balance sheet speaks the truth. I too do not "particularly" like to use their products – I feel they lack "soul", but for a decent amount of people out there, M$ still provides a service they can live with; and it's good enough to still command handsome profits the world over.

Apple, Linux and Android are great to give further choice to the consumer, and as more and more consumers experience tablet computing, and more responsive lighter OS's, so M$ will have to respond to stay relevant… and responding they are…

We will see in twelve months time how well their new Surface table sells and how well accepted v8 has been by the general public at large…

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"


Last edited by Qubex on 6/21/2012 4:08:10 AM

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

I had the least amount of problems with XP but still has issues nonetheless. I've just become very tired of having to restore my computer every 6 months to clear up some unknown issue. Everytime I do that I have another problem. Like right now my computer keeps dropping its Wifi signal. Every 2 to 3 minutes it's disconnects and reconnects for no apparent reason. I have updated and reset my router, as well as updated my wireless card drivers. Still not working. I have never had these issues with our iMac. I understand how optimizing the OS can make it run smoothly, my problem with MS is that they build OS's that need that much optimization in the first place and they have a monopoly on the market. I really dislike what they didn't to Linux with their FUD campaign. They tried doing it to Sony too. It's dishonest and is complete scumbaggery in my opinion.


Last edited by Jawknee on 6/21/2012 10:50:46 AM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

MS creates all of its products both software and hardware in such a way that they fall apart quickly and on purpose.

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