Specs are never 100% concrete until they're confirmed, but it's always fun to hear about possible power.

The PSP2 is a hot topic recently, especially after various sources cited juicy "insider information." Could the PSP2 actually be as powerful as the PS3? And what about the other potentially revolutionary portable features? Well, while the latest report says everything will be official within the next few days – supposed unveiling on January 27 – we've got more details thanks to Nikkei and Engadget : evidently, the PSP2 will boast a sweet OLED touchscreen and 3G data from NTT DoCoMo. We can expect "multiplayer action and even full video and game downloads over the Japanese cellular network." Last but certainly not least, the source claims the new screen will be larger and "powered by some potent new silicon." But no, it won't make phone calls, so that's why you get the PlayStation Phone, which might be on store shelves by April. At the end of the year, you could have two of the hottest new mobile devices and both are from Sony.

But we really need all the specs and relevant info…and that includes price. The PSP2 is starting to sound like a pricey little unit.

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Veitsknight
Veitsknight
10 years ago

I love PlayStation and all but judging from the "specs", I will only be able to afford the 3DS. 2011 is turning out to be a very expensive year for gamers.

Bonampak
Bonampak
10 years ago

Considering that the 3DS battery life will be short due to it's 3D capabilities, what can we expect from the PSP2 and it's bigger-shinier screen and having the same power as a PS3?

I hope they consider that before they turn the PSP2 into an expensive gadget that is barely 'portable'.

Let's make this one work Sony. Not another PSP Go!, k?

ZettaiSeigi
ZettaiSeigi
10 years ago

It would be great if the PSP2 would really feature an OLED screen. Those displays are amazing! I cannot wait for Sony to officially announce the PSP2. And I do hope that they would strengthen its security to circumvent the piracy problems that hounded the original PSP.

frylock25
frylock25
10 years ago

what is oled?

i am very interested in this but i see it being really pricey. will be fun though

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
10 years ago

it's Holed without the H.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
10 years ago

OLED isorganic light emitting diode. Sony where the first ones that produced the first OLED TV and the technology is expensive.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 1/23/2011 10:57:43 PM

Veitsknight
Veitsknight
10 years ago

That crushes any hope I had of owning a PSP2.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

@Alex,

OLED is expensive in larger sizes but in the size of screen that is used in a handheld, they are not cost prohibitive. Besides which they sip power and are brighter than conventional LEDs which is a huge benefit for a handheld with limited battery capacity and a power hungry processor.

Samsung AMOLED (active matrix Organic LED) screens, like the ones that are used in many smartphones, are in this size range and not hugely expensive. The Active Matrix screens are very crisp and have good response times.

frylock25
frylock25
10 years ago

why is it called organic? as opposed to what?

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

The substance used to make the LED emitters is an organic compound that can function as a semi-conductor. Some hydrocarbons function as semi-conductors. These compounds are much easier to work with, a thin film of the material can be used and with polymer anodes and cathodes flexible screens can be made on transparent substrates. So you can literally have a roll-up screen that is transparent when inactive. Its cool technology.

daus26
daus26
10 years ago

I think I read about it at one time (if I'm not mistaken) that it has the ability to turn off the color pigments completely for some dark scenes to produce the darkest, deepest black possible as well as contrast levels. It does it quick too, so color transition should be instant. Since it has the ability to turn on and off when it needs to, it might be one of the reasons why it has superior power efficiency. I read about this a long time ago so I may not be too accurate.

Whatever the case, it's the best possible screen a portable device can have right now so I'm excited.

spiderboi
spiderboi
10 years ago

Why OLED and not AMOLED?

AMOLED is the only good thing about my phone…

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

100% correct Daus, that ability gives these kinds of screen a very high contrast ratio. Also because they don't have all the filters necessary for a conventional LED backlit LCD screen, they are brighter than those screens for the same amount of energy. So you get the crispness from the high contrast, a brighter image for the same power, and the screen is much lighter and thinner than a backlit LCD. I believe that they also switch faster resulting in a far better refresh time.

Taking all of that into account you can see why mobile device makers really like OLED screens.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
10 years ago

@TheHighlander

okay, I guess you can explain this stuff better than probably all of us here on the technology side. Good info man. And yet Organic is pure good stuff.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 1/24/2011 1:15:07 PM

Bugzbunny109
Bugzbunny109
10 years ago

OLED screen? Sounds expensive…Is anyone else thinking this will cost at least 400 bucks? Anyway, that won't deter me from purchasing it.
I can't wait to see what it looks like. Hopefully, it strays away from the conventional psp look. The picture on the article would suffice for me.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

AMOLED screens are not that much more expensive, and they use hardly any power which is huge for a handheld with a fast CPU.

Alienange
Alienange
10 years ago

Show me the games

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
10 years ago

Show me the money, cuz I ain't gonna be able to afford this.

Scarecrow
Scarecrow
10 years ago

Do some research, there's a mountain of great games on psp.

Google's your friend.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
10 years ago

I think he means PSP2 games.

PorkChopGamer
PorkChopGamer
10 years ago

@Scarecrow

And context should be yours.

kevinater321
kevinater321
10 years ago

How cool would it be if the screen could fold up and be much smaller?!

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
10 years ago

I fear for the price of this that it won't be a breakout hit. And yet, Apple can release a new widget anytime they want and people snap it up.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

They'll snap it up for double the price too.

::rolls eyes::

Qubex
Qubex
10 years ago

…but World… you can't really fault Apple design… can you now…

Even I will probably purchase an iPad 2 before I get the PSP2. Web browsing is important to me and the iPad 2 fulfills alot of the multimedia stuff I want to do without karting a laptop around with me, burning my thighs when I rest it on my legs…

If PSP2 has similar capabilities to an iPod, includes a really good browser etc, then it may be worth while, but first comes the iPad 2, then the PSP2 at a later date…

* I may change my mind depending on the PSP2 specifications, but I feel strongly as it is… we'll see on the 27th of January.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"


Last edited by Qubex on 1/24/2011 1:58:33 AM

sticklife
sticklife
10 years ago

Yeah, I think I may just start getting all my psp games as downloads. That way it's more likely to work with the psp2. Has anyone seen an OLED seceen? I have once, it was the really small one they had in best buy, finger prints all over, which means of course it was pretty!

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

Nice, This is heading in the direction I am hoping for…

I swear, I'm going to dig out my PSP2 guess from 2009 when this thing is announced and do a comparison.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

Should have added this thought. The 3G mentioned in the article relates to Japan only. 3G capability outside Japan will be in the hands of others than NTT DoCoMo who are Japan specific. There are 3G devices that include the connectivity in their price, but with the bandwidth that a PSP2 would need, I'm not sure that it will be easy to get all inclusive pricing that is in the range of normal consumers. I also don't see consumers wanting to buy this thing if it is encumbered by a two year agreement with a Cell operator. So I am wondering whether Sony will use a monthly subscription to 'Mobile PSN' (or some such name) so that they can buy 3G bandwidth from the major operators allowing the PSP to operate anywhere without having to have a specific Cell network available.

Qubex
Qubex
10 years ago

Highlander, if it has 3G connectivity it means we can also do VoIP… so maybe it will come with a Skype application too.

Who knows, but I can tell you the Homebrew hacking scene will try its luck out as soon as it is released… you can bet your bottom dollar on that.

My hunch is Sony has learnt from its mistakes with the PS3 and are using a far more robust set of security measures and countermeasures in the PSP2 than ever before… we'll shall see…

Geohot has already threatened to crack it as soon as it is released.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

Simcoe
Simcoe
10 years ago

Very intriguing Highlander. Sounds like something along the lines of how OnStar works. The end-user doesn't deal with the cell phone company, OnStar (or in this case) Sony would.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

@Qubex,

I agree with you, they must surely have learned a lesson or two with PSP and PS3.

Personally, I think that they might try to go with a security structure similar to the PS3, but with the gaps filled and flaws fixed. I'm thinking something like making the CPU to be able to run a core security subsystem that can't be tampered with from the outside.

Use a hardware key that can't be seen from the outside and use an encrypted executable format for certain security related code. Have a separate system of keys and encryption for the games and media. The media keys have to be properly secure, and Sony needs to be able to revoke a key in the event that it is compromised.

The system needs to be tamper evident, not tamper proof. I don't think that you can ever design a computer that is tamper proof, I'm certain you'd agree with that. I think that Sony needs to design a system with a security subsystem deep inside the CPU that can detect tampering with system software and hardware – such as has been attempted on the PS3. Then any time system software of unauthorized software is used, or someone attempts to tamper with the security system, the security can silently raise an alarm indicating that the system has been tampered with. That won't stop hackers and pirates but it makes it possible to immediately identify and block/restrict/whatever a system that's compromised as soon as it touches PSN.

I just don't think that you can permanently prevent people from hacking any system. You can get close, but in the end something will happen. So you have to protect in layers and have a tamper evident security system that acts like a failsafe in the event that the system does get hacked.

Qubex
Qubex
10 years ago

The issue with Sony being notified about a tamper attempt automatically is that, in some form, it is corporate "spyware" reporting back on your activities. The whole Sony "root kit debacle" was over such an attempt and it didn't go down well…

Surely a lawsuit would ensue!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

Not really. I'm not talking about an active call home feature, that would surely be disabled by a hacker any way. I'm talking about a telltale that is read when the system contacts PSN. So the user initiates the session and authenticates and as part of the authentication the PS3 sends an encrypted packet that indicates it's tamper state. That's not spyware or anything else. It's simply the system indicating whether it's been tampered with or not, and doing so passively when interrogated by PSN at login.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
10 years ago

Sony has never let me down when it comes to a gaming system. I'll gladly pay the premium price the device will surely run for when it's first released.

People that complain about the pricing can just wait till it drops. I don't want Sony to reduce the specs in order to appease the cheap.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

That would be a false economy (cutting specs to cut the price). Sony needs to push the envelope on the specs, so the first year pricing might be challenging for some.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
10 years ago

I understand that, but those that can't afford such a wonderful device need to realize that new cutting edge technology requires a premium price. So sit back, relax, and eventually all (or most) gamers will be able to enjoy the fun.

I hate it when friends tell me one of the reasons they like their Wiis is due to its pricing. Screw that, I'll take Coke over Sam's Club cola any day.

frylock25
frylock25
10 years ago

man i havent seen you around here in months. were you out picking out some scarfs or something? lol

Simcoe
Simcoe
10 years ago

I wonder, if Sony will have/want to subsidize the price for the first year or two (re: PS3).

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

Possibly, but unlike the PS3, this will not have an optical drive and CPU/GPU combination that between them rack up more than $400 in costs alone (as the BluRay and Cell/RSX did when the Ps3 launched).

The major component costs in this will be the processor/GPU combination, the brand new motherboard, the screen (and if it's not a touch screen, the trackpad on the back) and whatever chunk of Flash they put inside it. Many of the components for the control sticks and buttons are already there in the PSP. So Sony will be able to re-use some of that, and the PSP-Go already used the sliding screen mechanism to reveal the controls, so the mechanics of that are already sorted out too.

It could cost $250 and still not make a significant loss – depending on how exotic the CPU/GPU is. If they use an advanced, off the shelf design it will be far cheaper than a completely custom piece of silicon. All the rumors were pointing to a quad core system, but the Tegra2 from nVidia has also been mentioned. That's only dual core, so it might be Tegra3 which will be 4 cores this year (and might have been available in production samples in Q4 2010).

Here's a link to an article about the Tegra3. It lines up well with what we've been told about the PSp2 so far.

http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/quad-core-nvidia-tegra-3-expected-to-debut-at-mwc-next-month-20110121/

I guess we'll know in a few days time.

godsman
godsman
10 years ago

I am more interested using the PSP2 as a portable movie player. No matter how many pixels per inch an iphone has, the screen size is just not comfortable for watching any videos.

If Sony can somehow make the PSP2 a 5 inch screen, but maintain a lower battery consumption and reasonable price, I AM SOLD!

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
10 years ago

Hell that's what I use my PSP for now. Being able to remotely watch all the media on my PS3 and all the content on my PC via streaming makes the PSP the best media device I've ever owned.

kevinater321
kevinater321
10 years ago

That is where the folding screen comes in. youtube link: /watch?v=X0OCBiuIcM8 . Go there to check out sony's folding screen.

___________
___________
10 years ago

so its going to be as powerful as a ps3, be full HD, have touch screen capability, have 3G capability, and use a OLED display?
hell, why not shoot for laser while your at it!?
sorry, if im a little skeptical but how much are they going to be charging for this?
id say scrap the touch screen its unnecessary and really drains battery life.
i want all this to be true, if not more than anyone else but come on at this rate its going to be more expensive then a dam ps3!
id be happy with something along the lines of the iphone 4, some of the games running off there look freaking beautiful!
anything more than that is overkill.
you want it to look pretty, but than you dont want to overshoot the hoop because, well, whos going to pay 600+ bucks for a freaking handheld?

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
10 years ago

It isn't rumoured to have a touchscreen, but a touch pad, not unlike that found on laptops, and I don't believe that they are at all expensive. But yeah, anything over about $500AUD is going to be VERY price prohibitive.
Peace.

___________
___________
10 years ago

i honestly cant see anyone paying any more than 450 bucks for it, no matter how powerful it is or how many things it can do.
unless it can cook my dinner, clean my car, do the washing, do the dishes, do my tafe work, and tell me the lottery numbers.
1 its a handheld.
2 were not exactly in a economy where everyones wallet is bursting!

Simcoe
Simcoe
10 years ago

Isn't that how much iphones cost WITHOUT a two or three-year voice and data contract?

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
10 years ago

Yes, actually, but the iPhone is a phenomenon in its own right. The PSP2 will not be. It all comes down to public perception really, and I think that people flock to the iProducts because of that instant brand recognition, rather than the features themselves. Having the PS name instantly will brand it as a gaming device, and so the priorities of many will put it lower than the latest phone.
Peace.

___________
___________
10 years ago

yea, kinda but you cant compare the 2.
the Iphone does EVERYTHING!
the PSP2 wont.
IMO the iphone is waaaaaaaaay overpriced, by far the best phone i have ever owned but still way overpriced!
sony dont have the drowns apple have though.
steve could say go jump off the empire state building, and the next night you would see a news bulletin of 4M people doing so.
sony could say the same thing, and maybe 10 would do it.
cant understand it, but theres so many people who follow apple like a freaking religion!

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
10 years ago

Both interesting possibilities to be sure. The OLED screen will aid in prolonging battery life, as well as providing the user with a better screen at a price point which, by all means, shouldn't be overly expensive. The 3G connectivity is wonderous, but I'm wondering how it'll be implemented, as no-one will want to sign up for a contract with a mobile provider unless they are guaranteed to use it. Perhaps they'll be able to use some sort of pre-paid credit in a deal with providers?

Three days until the expected reveal… Can't wait.
Peace.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

How about a subscription fee paid to Sony to allow Access to PSN from your PSP2 (Specifically the PSP2 and nothing else). Sony then turns around and buys network capacity from the major mobile telcos. Sony's PSP2 customers never have to even worry about it, because it's included in their subscription to PSN.