Ben-DutkaI tell you, 2012 hasn't been a proud year to be a gamer.
First there was the Mass Effect 3 outcry, during which there was enough obscene entitlement and spoiled brat syndrome to make any well-adjusted, mature individual turn away with disgust.
And now this.
So Hurricane Sandy generated a lot of problems on the east coast this past week. New York was hit especially hard, and that caused a few previously laid plans to go awry, including Rockstar's intention to release the new Grand Theft Auto V trailer . Well, all right. Makes perfect sense to me. But a few hours later, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw, over at DarkZero , a summary of fans mouthing off at Rockstar because they didn't get that trailer. And I mean, totally ticked off.
Seriously? Seriously ? This is how horribly immature we've really become? This is the level of growth to which we can attest? Yelling at a company because they suffered through a hurricane and didn't get a freakin' video game trailer up the exact instant they had intended to? The worst part is that this kind of behavior gets a lot of attention; attention beyond the boundaries of our little world, and trust me when I say, a whole lot of mainstream individuals are seeing this and going, "Yeah, I knew they were just a bunch of kids. Or kids in grown-up skin."
And really, what can we say against that at this point? How is any of this even remotely defensible? This isn't about the launch of a game; this is about a trailer . This is because a video didn't show up on the Internet. This is because gamers can't seem to help themselves; they just can't find a way to act like grown humans. And even if what some are saying is true, even if Rockstar could put up the trailer but is choosing not to for other reasons, so the hell what ? Are you honestly going to take to forums and message boards and complain because you didn't get your trailer this week?
Get…a…life. Please .
I thought that as gaming got more popular, it'd be easier to admit to a group of professionals at a party that I'm a game journalist and yeah, I like games. But it seems that with every passing month, it gets harder and harder to admit. It's all the worse because I have no way of defending my fellow gamers. All I can do is shrug and go, "Yeah, well, children will be children. I will apologize on their behalf because they never will."
The world's full of douchebags.
But unfortunately for the rest of us sane-minded folks, some of those douche's have now discovered gaming to biatch about too.
Last edited by BikerSaint on 11/2/2012 10:42:30 PM
Especially on the Internet considering it's a place where they don't have to expose their true name, or face to act "tough."
Aye, this – this kind of behaviour isn't limited to gamers. It's right sad we're affected too, but we're all human, gamers included. I totally agree that those Rockstar 'fans' embarrassed themselves!
The age of Internet and Multiplayer gaming is wholly to blame for this. Everyone is able to have anonymity and say anything that is on their mind without fear of consequences. This is the main reason I do not play the MP portion of any games.
People, of any age, get real blazen and crude because their is nothing to fear. Say what you will, and I know there are some fun experiences to be had if you have a bunch of mature friends, this is only going to get worse as more companies go the way of MP gaming.
Yo calling them douchebags is an insult even to douchebags XD I know some decent friendly douches lol.
We could just call'em TUMORS. They are rotting and eating away the world of gaming XD
It should be legal for RS to sue them for it haha
Ugh, this is terrible. I mean I get the Mass Effect 3 thing even though some people got really out of control and threatening and what have you but this?
Seriously a natural disaster and they are pissed off about a trailer that will likely be released in a couple days/weeks? Its not even like the game got delayed because of it.
This planet could use some large scale natural selection about now 😛
It's too bad human behavior sometimes becomes like this. On the bright side, I think it's important to remind ourselves that even .01 percent of like, what? 10 million GTA fans still accounts for 100,000 people. And if even a quarter of that number appeared online as irate gamers, it could SEEM like a voice from a much greater majority.
It's not.
This isn't the voice of a gaming majority or even close to it. This is humans.
This is a percentage of people who have priorities screwed in more places than one, and these people exist in every facet of society to some degree or another. This just happens to be one of those outbursts that has irrupted in the gaming sect, like Tomb Raider rage, like Mass Effect before it.
I say, avoid these guys and don't give them any attention. They want it.
I think WE all know it's the minority. But to those on the outside looking in, they don't realize it. It's the only thing they see, so we're all once again branded as children.
If I was CEO at Rockstar, I would cancel GTA V immediately. Then release an iOS game.
That's what Rockstar should do! not make an IOS game (that would suck for all of us) but make a fake trailer for one and pretend like that was the one they were going to release…then watch the reaction
I just can't believe that even Rockstar will get death threats as well.
An IOS game???? Be serious! Facebook games are a million times better!
Hope a hurricane can meet these people. See how they like it.
This stuff has nothing to do with being a gamer, it has everything to do with being able to comment anonymously on the internet. People can act like complete idiots and have no repercussions. The reason a lot of these things involve gamers is because the gaming community is almost all online. But really all you have to do is look at any internet forum or comment thread to see this kind of idiocy.
Amen to that.
Unfortunately, that isn't true. You would never see this in a forum discussing classical music or wine or fine art.
Sadly, gaming is seen as a very low-brow form of entertainment…and this is sort of why.
You see this kind of stuff for political debates all the time online. Not just games, it just so happens that the gaming community gets crapped on by outside folks so you see it more often.
I dunno Ben, vinophiles can be mighty snippy.
Okay Ben, maybe not classical music, wine, fine art etc. but those are very specific segments of the population. Video games are quite mainstream now and involves a much broader segment of the population. Although I do agree that gaming is viewed as low brow and not considered a legitimate form of entertainment and art-which it most definitely is.
Also there's a lot more 12 year olds on gaming forums than fine art forums.
You got a point matt99, anonymity and the average age definitely plays a role here. But it's only part of the problem.
To be blunt, "any idiot can hold a controller", and it shows. Of all the communities I've been part of on the web over the years, I've met the highest amount of low-brows in the gaming communities.
Fanatical, irrational, aggressive, disrespectful pricks with a kind of behavior that simply had not been accepted whatsoever in other circles.
It really is depressing at times, but it's something you kinda just have to learn to tackle, that's how common it is. IMHO.
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I very unfortunately agree with Beamboom.
Frustration + misplaced priorities + Internet = This.
Thankfully I don't equate the worst of the bunch with the whole bunch in any milieu.
That's just ridiculous.
The problem is everyone has become dependent and addicted to electronics. I was watching the news and they were interviewing young kids affected by "Sandy", and they actually said they enjoyed being free of electronics. It gave them more time with family and were videod playing outside dispite the effects the storm caused. That was neat to see, and it was good to hear that they realize there is more important things.
The Internet is a place where anyone can say anything and it's terrible that something like this is happening. It's disgraceful really.
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I hope all the developers who were harassed in this year's freak festival aren't discouraged by it.
Too late, a big shot at Bioware left, I think he was heard saying "Screw you guys, I'm taking my toys and going home!"
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It wasn't too long ago either. I need to slow down on that short term memory destruction project I've been working on.
I blame Halo, CoD, Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter and To a much grander scale, I once again blame the Internet.
All I can do is shake my head at all these spoiled kids that want instant gratification.
It's a shame that it had to get leaked that R* intended to drop the trailer. If that hadn't happened, there would be no furore. Considering that it has, what option is there but to shake one's head? Surely people aren't so utterly callous to get up in a huff over the trailer of a game when something like 60 people have been killed and millions left without power, some without homes from the same event that caused the delay?
Pathetic? No, this is way beyond that term.
::Applause::
Well said Ben. This kind of bratty entitlement mentality is out of hand.
You tell'em Ben.
While we all breathe a collective sigh and shake our heads.
I blame the emasculation of men. We're not teaching boys to be men anymore. They're kept in this infantile state and this is a consequence. That and the total anonymity of the net you get a bunch of man children crying about a video trailer while people starve and drown.
Sad.
Definitely too many grown up crybabies these days.
All I can think about is that Atlantic article, "The End of Men."
Yup. I read that article too.
This has to be one of the biggest facepalm moments of the year.
The really REALLY sad part is that I'm not even that surprised about reactions like this anymore.
There comes a time when all must say simply this:
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
This is why I picked this site as my home for info. I have quit reading the comments on other game sites. Can't stand it. Childishness is totally out of hand. I have nephews that fall into that catergory and I have gotten onto them about that. It seems that headsets and mics give them a security blanket. Having told them to knock it off and not berate or downgrade someone because they dont think like you do. Who knows, you may wind up looking that person in the eye one day. And they might turn out to be someone like me!
Appreciate the praise. 🙂
Or they might meet someone even worse, like me.
I have a new thought. Some of the blame absolutely must be laid at the feet of the current twitchy twittery generational trend. Everything everywhere right now is on-demand and instantaneous, it has corrupted people into thinking they deserve everything and they deserve it right now.
Everything is set up to reinforce this idea so it's no wonder people of lesser intelligence fall into the trap.
Instant gratification
I also remember seeing a video on about Lucas giving away the 4billion to charity and everyone lashed out angry for that. Makes me question us humans.
Wow, that's about the same figure he made off of selling the Star Wars franchise to Disney.
question fanboys instead.
I f*ucking hate Justin Bieber and his f*ucking music, I f*ucking hate that his music sells millions.
Oh wait, I'm in the wrong forum. Sorry guys.
By the way, I'm not bothered by it cause I knew this world is not perfect, that there are people who really doesn't care about the others only themselves and their own interests. Also don't be ashamed being a gamer or a game journalist. Other groups also have things to be ashamed about. Ex: cycling enthusiast, guns, medicine, teacher, priest, etc. They all have done things by their people that is shameful. Also to those people who will judge gamers based of what that minority has done shamefully, well they are close minded as well, so don't be ashamed of them.
Like Roy Mustang said, " The world is not perfect, but that what makes it more beautiful."
Justin Bieber does reek. Have you noticed the brown stain on his mouth? Kiss the right spot on the corporate bigwigs and sell their agenda and you're in, whether your music is good or not.
I was really looking forward to the trailer. Am I a little disappointed? Yes, but am I mad at R*? Hell no. Life happens and it’s not really a big deal. With all of the destruction Sandy left behind, we should be focusing our energy on what we can do to help those affected by the storm and not being angry at a company who wasn't able to put a video online. It is highly insensitive to feel that you were hurt by the storm because you didn’t get to see your precious trailer when there are people who lost their homes, businesses and loved ones. I cannot believe anyone would seriously act this way because a game trailer was postponed….. It’s actually really sad.
An uproar over a trailer? There really should be an age restriction for internet users
You know…
If people can be this petty and immature about such a thing… Then I say make 'em wait. Nature just Rick-Rolled your sorry whiny butts. You wanted GTA V, but you got news coverage instead. I can't believe that people are this petty about such inconsequ…
Wait…
The interwebs, that's right…
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The Mass Effect 3 thing I see nothing wrong with complaining about, mainly because I'm not a fan of any of the games but this fiasco here over a trailer…. I'd like to see how they would react if they were involved with a natural disaster and then got fired because their house was blown away or something. Jesus Christ…