A busy week and it looks like March will be even busier. But that's good, right?

Oh great…here we go again

I've spoken about it before: my odd aversion to The Elder Scrolls franchise. Whenever one comes out, the process is exactly the same; it's basically inevitable. I follow the game for months before it releases, get myself all pumped and hyped, and buy it on day one with lofty expectations. Then I spend the next few days desperately trying to get into it, telling myself over and over, "by all rights, you should love this." Then, after a good 10 hours of trying, I realize it's just another failed attempt and I have something to sell. As much as I don't want to fall for the same trick again, I now realize the routine is starting a new: after watching that awesome Skyrim trailer , I'm all sorts of excited. I can't wait. I think, "yup, this is the one." I try to convince myself that my tastes have changed a little since Oblivion .

But in the end, I think it's just a mind game and somewhere deep down, I'm convinced I'll be disappointed again. That doesn't stop me from being all excited, though, and that's annoying . 99% of the time, if I know enough about a game and I'm pretty sure I'll like it, I'm happy with the final result. The Elder Scrolls just keeps bucking that positive trend. Let's hope the trend ends later this year…

Dragon Age II is gonna divide RPG fans

There's nobody who hates a watered-down RPG more than I do. After playing them for a good 18 years, I've been sick and tired by the downshifting to hacking and slashing and the sacrifice of strategic, in-depth mechanics. And I suppose some fans will see Dragon Age II as a mainstream concession of sorts; an abandoning of BioWare's hardcore faithful due to the increased speed and more action-oriented approach. For the record, they could've left the gameplay the same as it was in Origins and I would've been happy. But as I expressed in my hands-on analysis of the demo, I am not about to accuse the developers of dumbing down a great title. It's true that the more streamlined approach to combat means we miss a few small features, but I maintain one thing- to claim that DAII isn't an RPG is just ridiculous.

It's more of an RPG than most anything else on store shelves that calls itself a "role-playing game." The amount of depth included in the talents and skills sections – which apparently have gone unnoticed or ignored by the offended – is significant, and you still have to approach any given combat situation from a strategic standpoint. It feels nothing like an action game, and that's that.  I don't think there's any other way to see it.

Personal gaming update

Killzone 3 is long since complete and that game is bad-ass. Plain and simple. I'm basically done with Bulletstorm , which is a bit flawed but still lots of fun in my eyes. My next game will have to be Dragon Age II and beyond that, we'll just have to see. I still go back to Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together because it's a great game…even if it's not FFT. 😉 I am becoming more and more excited for L.A. Noire , though.

As for our new YouTube Channel , I'm planning a video commentary for Dragon Age II and maybe something original; we're definitely not going to be neglecting that new branch of the site. It's too important. I will also continue to work on that which cannot be announced just yet, but as of this weekend, I think we're a step closer…

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PasteNuggs
PasteNuggs
9 years ago

I was a little annoyed at the DA2 demo. I mean, ya there is depth everywhere else but I really don't want to button mash the X button all day because from the demo it seems there will be a lot of combat. Maybe it will be better when you have all your spells and such but I'll have to wait and see.

PGU: Finished up KZ3 today. Will get into the online at some point. Otherwise it will probably be some GT5 in between finishing Dead Space 2.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

I found the button mashing quite annoying myself. Particularly when playing as the Rogue (ninja'ish). Especially since I think I'm going to fancy the 360 version, but the 360's fat raised buttons actually cause wrist strain for me after hammering a button for a prolonged time–yeah, I'm a weenie.
Of the three character types I think I enjoyed the Mage the most. I also liked being able to control battlefield positioning. At the start of a battle I could send my warriors straight way to block an approaching band of Hurlocks (?) who were coming down a narrow path. After which I follow up with an area effect fireball shower while they're all bunched up in a tight grouping. I also found it most effective to micro-manage the Mage's healing abilities on my front line rather than allowing AI control to do it. But I also saw the "tactics" menu that let's you define AI behavior… very awesome and somewhat reminiscent of FF12's gambit system.

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

Yes, I buttoned mashed as well quite a bit. I had to try and run around that troll beast for ages before I could kill it. Whilst the graphics were pretty good, and they seemed very crisp, I wasn't overly impressed. I think Mass Effect 2 would probably be better play here.

Anyway, we'll see…

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

Nerull
Nerull
9 years ago

Yes the button-mashing concerns me a bit as well but in theory it should open up once we get the chance to use more than a couple skills.
The trees also still looked a bit tiny, considering half of them are slightly upgraded versions of the exact same skill.
As long as the humour and story is still decent though it should turn out well enough.

NOTE only a day and half left for Call to Arms and we're still 140,000 short!
I did my part, even with strained bandwidth, help justify some incentive goodies that DON'T involve preordering from stores x,y,z (or rather EB, GS, Wmart).

PGU: Getting back to finishing one last run-through of Origins since I have yet to get the throne in it and simultaneously at least halfway through the Witcher, also in prep for the sequel.

Not surprisingly I'll keep an eye out for ES V
when it arrives but I'll keep my expectations in check. I remember it being confirmed that we won't be stuck in hundreds of convos with talking statues anymore so that's already a huge peev gone.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
9 years ago

It's barely stopped raining since Wednesday afternoon. I feel waterlogged.

I forgot about Dragon Age: Origins. I made my character after I bought it, played it for about an hour and put it back on the shelf. Have to get back to it… maybe after Killzone.

Personal Update:
Finished Dead Space yesterday morning, wrote and posted my review. Been playing the sequel on and off since then. Nothing terribly exciting.
Peace.

cLoudou
cLoudou
9 years ago

RPG or not, DA isn't for me. Always wanted DA:O but after playing the demo (DAII) I'm glad I passed it up.

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

pretty big difference between the two.

Vitron
Vitron
9 years ago

For me, it somehow lacks flashiness of its skills and magics compared to JRPGs. But I really loved the strategic part of DA and DAII

matt99
matt99
9 years ago

Killzone 3 is loads of fun- especially the brutal melee, it's just so satisfying. As for Skyrim, I'm very excited for it as I am a huge Oblivion fan. Also Ben, maybe try to convince yourself you will hate Skyrim, that way when you do pick it up it will definitely beat your expectations:P

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

I too am looking forward to Skyrim. This is a definite buy from what I can see. The environments look beautiful as well… it looks like its going to be a solid game.

I haven't picked up my copy of Killzone 3 yet. Will do when I return from my Australian business trip. Sydney, here I come.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

matt99
matt99
9 years ago

Yeah it does look great, and Killzone 3 is definitely worth it!

hellish_devil
hellish_devil
9 years ago

Waiting for the PSN games awards, and therefore, the price drops of the winners 🙂

I want Castle Crashers so bad.


Last edited by hellish_devil on 2/26/2011 10:19:44 PM

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

I liked Oblivion quite a bit. I spent around 40 hours with it. In order for me to get into it I had to sort of sell myself on Tamriel and it's inhabitants–because many of the aesthetics weren't going to do it.

What got me the most was taking a personal interest in some of the really compelling quests. I really liked a particular quest that sent you out into some ruins to investigate a wife's request to find her missing husband who had took his leave to accomplish an errand but hasn't returned home. After following up on his whereabouts I came upon these ruins where an insidious person lured people in from all around Tamriel to be taken captive within an underground labyrinth. The only way out from this labyrinth was to defeat any of the other prisoners. And they were seeking as desperately as you were to escape. Anyway, the game had it's moments. Eventually, the level system got the best of me and I think I eventually realized I was better off restarting the game from scratch to better build my character. This bothered me and so I lost interest. But the time spent was quite intriguing and I'm very interested in Skyrim.

I'm totally sold on Dragon Age and I'll be snagging the Ultimate Edition before long. I'm suspecting an easy $10 price drop on it shortly after DA2's release. I'll probably go ahead and use my $20 credit from Amazon towards it.

PGU: this week has been all about KZ3 for me. The game was pretty much exactly what I wanted from it. I'm already working on my second play through. I also did up a user-review here, too.

I won Lost Odyssey on Ebay for $16 after shipping. I have to say I'm quite excited to actually sink into it. Having rented it to get a taste, it passed the mustard. I have to say I'm pretty psyched about getting a more traditional format jRPG on this gen hardware. FF13 didn't quite fit that bill even though I still enjoyed it. It just seems that there hasn't been a good deal of these traditional jRPG types that stay true to their classic formula this gen, and if there are, they seem lackluster.
Does anyone know if Last Remnant is anything special? It's Squaresoft and it seems somewhat good, but I dunno.

bebestorm
bebestorm
9 years ago

The Last Remnant is nothing special to be honest its terrible. You should try Infinite Undiscovery its not turned based but its good. Unfortunately there is no other game like Lost Odyssey this gen.


Last edited by bebestorm on 2/27/2011 8:18:52 AM

johnld
johnld
9 years ago

yeah, i played infinite undiscovery. i found it for 10 bucks right before hollywood video closed down. i liked the story and gameplay. i played it a long ago and after a barrage of games, i dont remember how the game was exactly. i do remember that i loved the game.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

So no on Last Remnant and yes on Infinite Discovery. good to know.

PorkChopGamer
PorkChopGamer
9 years ago

Too much stuff coming in March. Probably will hold off on DAO2 until I knock about 5 more games off of the backlog.

I finished Killzone 3 on Wednesday and really can't see myself playing it again. It's got the graphics pedigree (amazing), for sure, but everything else is nothing special. Small amount of weapons, short length, and an unsatisfying ending. And this talk of open battlefields, I have know idea where that even comes from. 90% is running into 3 or 4 entrenched Helghast and then repeating that until the objective is reached. I was waiting for the game to open up to innovation, open up to huge mech on mech action, something that differentiating it from its predecessor, but it didn't. And it's really a downer to see all the vehicle sections on rails, when other games have gone past that. I'm going to finish Knights Contract(pretty cool) before I open Bulletstorm.


Last edited by PorkChopGamer on 2/26/2011 11:26:44 PM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

I miss where any other FPS has anything over KZ3 in any capacity. I've played them all.

Vehicles are little more than a gimmick in any shooter; you might be able to move around a little more in other shooters, but you still always have a particular path. And even then, there was that section in KZ3 inside the walking mech that wasn't any more constrained than anything else I've seen.

As for mechs…not even sure what you're talking about. It's a FPS. Don't want mech battles. At this point, no shooters are massively altering or upgrading mechanics; there was nothing even remotely "different" in Halo: Reach, Black Ops, Medal of Honor, or Bad Company 2. They just do everything we're already familiar with really well.

And KZ3 does most things better than all of them.

PorkChopGamer
PorkChopGamer
9 years ago

I'm not sure how much of a gimmick they are, the games you listed all have satisfying vehicle sections. MoH only has one with the ATV, but it's really fun. As for BFBC and Halo, you know vehicles are integral in both campaign AND multiplayer, so I'm not sure why you're dismissing them for the sake of Killzone 3, but, to each his own. And I won't get into weapons, which Killzone 3 seriously lacks a variety of. Or how incomplete the story was. Or a hint at innovation on the multiplayer side. Or the lack of online co-op(?) You believe Killzone 3 beats every other FPS and that's cool. You were more than satisfied with it and that's awesome. Personally, I was expecting more than just graphics from a game that is hailed as 'elite'.

King James
King James
9 years ago

From what I've seen and played KZ3 did separate itself from KZ2. Maybe you should play that awesome multiplayer to get that "variety", Porkchop?

Or maybe you just don't like Killzone? Thats ok. Its not for everyone. Resistance 3 maybe?


Last edited by King James on 2/27/2011 1:15:19 AM

PorkChopGamer
PorkChopGamer
9 years ago

As for the mechs, my imagination got the better of me there. I thought when you used a mech in KZ3, you would use it to shoot more than tanks and gun emplacements like KZ2. I thought you would fend off those animal-like robots, but I was wrong.

SayWord
SayWord
9 years ago

I do not see why there is so much hate for this game. I just beat it today and I have to say it is the best FPS I ever pLayed. Maybe its because of the sharpshooter move attachment? As for the story goes I thought it had an amazing pace and was pretty decent for an fps. It had character development on both ISA and Helghast even Rico was easy to like. Not to mention the rush the game gave you.


Last edited by SayWord on 2/27/2011 1:29:48 AM

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Some of the best memories I've had with Halo include the vehicles. I can think of many instances where I could plan out highly creative tactics with vehicles involved (even flying ones). Oftentimes, there's multiple vehicles within a single setting opening up all kinds of options. It's far and away the best vehicle integration I've played in any FPS. ANd to be fair, I've never played Battlefield 2 so I can't comment on that.

ANd PorkChop, why do you think KZ3's weapons are lacking? They've added quite a bit. Granted, the standard rifle still feels like the primary weapon, but they've added at least 5 different weapons to the already existing set from KZ2: shotgun pistol, detachable mobile turret, the wasp ballistics weapon, the green ooze gun, and the silenced sun-machine gun. Except for the rail gun, I think. I never encountered that. How many weapons do you expect from your FPS games?

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

I have to say, for vehicular action, difficult to beat Bad Company 2, and Bad Company 3 promises more and better than 2. Being Dice I can believe them.

KZ3 is a different sort of shooter. It has its own identity. It is not trying to copy other shooters I don't think, maybe a little considering the "weighty" effect has been reduced to some degree.

Other than this, KZ3 is no doubt a worthy addition to the collection…

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

aaronisbla
aaronisbla
9 years ago

not sure why when other fps games come out and they don't bring something brand new to the table (innovate) they get a free pass but when killzone or some new fps game comes out the door, people are expecting mind blowing innovation.

All of my fav fps games this gen haven't really been high on the innovation factor, but what they did do is work on what they have already and polish it. perfect example? BFBC2. Nothing about the game screams 'omg, thats sooooo new' because its predecessors paved the way for it.

What i see is Dice making steady improvements, learning from their mistakes so the next game will be even better I'd take that over some dev trying to bring something new to the table just for the sake of being different. I see the same with GG and Killzone 3. My time with the game was fun and it wasn't because the game is pretty damn stunning graphically. I enjoyed the gameplay.

If you are looking for something totally new and innovative, the fps genre is probably the last genre one should look in

PorkChopGamer
PorkChopGamer
9 years ago

@Temjin
Yeah, guns are probably an unecessary gripe, but I was on a roll with everything else. I think some of the gun gripe was more from the laughable stealth mission where the gentleman with you shoots an unsilenced weapon the entire time , yet Helghast around the corner don't hear it. Most comes from the 'green goo' gun, which really sucks, imo.


Last edited by PorkChopGamer on 2/27/2011 6:04:46 AM

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

porkchop, hehe, I never picked up on the un-silenced weapon my partner had. That portion of the level was basically a page ripped straight out of Modern Warfare's book. Except in MW you wore grassy looking camo suits instead of regular ISA suits with bright glowing blue "shoot me here" lights. So yeah, that portion of the game was a bit of the stretch of the imagination. And how come the Helghast can't see you in the tall grass or dark areas? 'Cause when you're disguised as a Helghast you see that their red goggles are feeding them some sort of enviro data, or something.

Anyway, I turn the portion of my brain off that tries to make sense of it all and I just shoot everything up while having a great time. It's twitch'n at it's finest.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Oh and SayWord, your avatar isn't wearing any pants

SayWord
SayWord
9 years ago

I can't help but feel that there is some serious bias in your opinions porkchop because I can't see where you get any of it from. The green goo gun sucks? What the hell are you smoking? It was the most useful gun besides the rail gun. Pinned down by 4 jump pack troopers? No problem charge up a shot and instant one hit kill. As for the on rails portion, even games with movement in those sections is still on rails! You go in one straight line, I'd rather see what I'm blowing up and who I'm killing and no game has done that better then what killzone 3 had done with its on rail sections.

SayWord
SayWord
9 years ago

@temjin you gotta love japanese girls with no pants on:p haha

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Porker also thinks Fist of the North Star and Dynasty Warriors is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I think that's a good indication of what kind of abysmal taste he has in games. Doesn't surprise me he doesn't like a great game like Killzone 3.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Finished KZ3 over the weekend on Saturday. It's the best FPS out there right now, as far as I'm concerned. Also, I CLEARLY remember from last night, playing mech on mech in a warzone match in multiplayer. So…. yeah….

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Is that true PorkChop? You liked Fist of the Northstar a lot?
I wanted to like it, but the demo was a real turn off. A part of me wants a real good follow up to something like Double Dragon or Final Fight.

I can understand the Dynasty Warriors draw. Those may not look like much but they bring something more unique to gaming compared to the usual stuff. I can't get into them myself.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

There is no more weapon variety in any Halo, there is no more weapon variety in most any FPS. CoD had more weapons, but you'd see maybe one or two new ones briefly.

The rest is all bias, PorkChop. I know how to review games, especially shooters, and much of what you're saying has little merit or is entirely subjective. I'll leave it at that.

johnld
johnld
9 years ago

@temjin
they explained why the helgast cant see them in one line. two helgast soldiers were talking and they said that there were too many lifesigns and they cant lock on. basically what happens when people depend on technology too much, missing the obvious stuff. the reason i dont pay much attention to the radar in games. i may check it for a second but i dont rely on it.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

oh cool, thanks johnld. I didn't catch that. A good reason for that is because I'm too busy gawking at the visuals and not listening to the dialoge as closely as I should.
So are you gonna do this one on Elite?
I'm tempted because it seems easier to me compared to some of K2's hard spots.
But I dunno. I'm enjoying the game even more on my second play through. The movement and guns are feeling even more natural to me having spent a lot of time, even online. I really like playing as the tactician.

frylock25
frylock25
9 years ago

lets see this week i have been playing some more gt5, finished up some b spec races i have been wanting to do but didnt have enough racers. one race took over 6 hours 35 minutes. if anyone is running remote b spec racing hit me up. i will be running it.

picked up killzone 3 this week and i am having a lot of fun with it. i havent had the chance to get really far in it but i have been enjoying it so far.

i got a demo of playstation move heroes this week. played it and had some fun, a lot of mini-games. movement is not one to one but in some spots it was kind of close. it was kind of fun to try these games but i hope it is more than just mini-games.

sent my first ps3 in for service and got it back on friday. got my new vegas disc back as well. now im going to get back to new vegas since it has been trapped in the system for months.

i was watching That 70's Show and i saw Kevin Butler in one of the episodes. season 5 ep 18 10 min i think. i looked him up and his real name is Jerry. he has been in a lot of tv shows.

GuernicaReborn
GuernicaReborn
9 years ago

I'm excited to see what else you have in store for the site… "That which cannot be announced." Sounds like the Apocalypse in a Harry Potter novel.

I haven't touched a game since last week. I just turned my PS3 on for the the first time in 5 days, lol. The only gaming related thing I've done this week is visit the site.

I was able to put a new deck in my Xterra, and I spent all morning on Thursday putting a rod holder and paddle clips on my kayak.. getting ready for fishing in the spring!!

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

While I do agree that DA2 has all the rpg elements, never said it didn't, it is at its heart and soul, a hack n slash rpg.

I don't really understand the strategy claim, as I never had to think about anything other than, run at bad guy, hit x button repeatedly, use special ability, hit x button repeatedly again.

You could pause the game constantly and tell everyone what to do every second, but you can win the battles by just running at the enemy and mashing the buttons.

PGU: Over 40 hours into Two worlds 2 and have discovered that the game map is deceptive, as most of the largest continent is un-explorable. Read a review, not from psx, that said the game would easily take over 70 hours to beat. Well he must have only played the first chapter and assumed this, because that is not the case. I still love it and there is a ton of stuff to do, but was a little sad that it wasn't as long as some reviews claimed.

Got Mafia 2 in the mail today though and will probably start that up as soon as I finish Two worlds 2.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

You don't honestly believe you're going to go through the entire game by hitting the X button, do you?

And I didn't do any such thing as a Mage. You can also issue all the tactics you could before, have all the control you had before, and pause and appraise as you did before.

You're getting way too caught up in the fact that you can now attack with X. Basically everything else remained the same, and it's not like we got very much into the talents and skills in the demo. The idea that you can just hit X the whole way through DAII is…I'm sorry…stupid.

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

Ben, have to agree, I am sure the demo is not representative of what one will do 50% of the time. Combat is one thing, but surely they will have a stronger RPG element in there somewhere 🙂

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

I think you are wrong. You can call me stupid all you like, but the fact remains that you can beat the demo without hitting anything but the x button during combat.

Just because you have the option to use more tactics does not mean that it is required. I'm not saying the possibility for tactics isn't there because it is, but from the demo you can easily conclude that this new combat mechanic allows you to play as simply as you would like too.

The x button mashing wouldn't bother me as much if it was imperative to utilize strategy and special abilities, but I beat the demo with nothing more than the x button, specifically to prove that it could be done.

I'll still end up getting the game because I love the world it's based in and I want to see the story. When I play it, I will utilize all the strategy at my disposal, but that doesn't mean I won't be disappointed at the fact that they made the combat in a way that it would be accessible to any age.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

kraygen, you beat the demo that never had anyone over Lv. 6 or 7 or something, that blocked out inventory and is guaranteed to feature lesser enemies because of the inherent limitations.

Furthermore, to say you beat the demo – including the boss ogre – with a mage just hitting the X button is mostly a lie. I suppose you could do it, but it'd be a ridiculous idea. The point is, the game absolutely encourages you to use tactics ad strategy at all times, even at a lower level.

Absolutely no depth was sacrificed and in fact, it appears there may be more. You are being blinded by one new glaring feature, and that's the long and short of it.

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

You're calling me a liar, for something that you didn't even try? Ben, I guess now it comes down to I don't care if you believe it or not. I have just lost a lot of respect for you. We have not always agreed, but to call me a liar when you yourself didn't even attempt it is just sad.

For one, I admit I did not try to beat it with only the x button using a mage. Mage is my least favorite class, I did however manage to do it with both the warrior and the rogue.

I'm just blown away that rather than have an open mind and try something you would just call me blind and a liar. What have I done to deserve that? I have said that I know the tactics are still available, all the rpg elements are there, it doesn't change the fact that hitting x is your regular attack.

I'm just really disappointed, I've seen you jump people a little harshly for disagreeing with you before, but this is pathetic.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

You're not even responding to the subject. Now you're being blinded by an insult that didn't even exist.

It is a LIE to imply that anyone will be able to go through Dragon Age II by mashing on the X button. That isn't true, and you should know that isn't true, regardless of what class you use. I'm talking about the entire game, and you know I am.

I used all three classes in trying the demo. Do you even have a response to the points I made concerning depth, the limited state of the demo, or anything like that?


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 2/28/2011 3:55:56 PM

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

I did respond, I said that I know all of the elements are there. I also realize that it is simply a demo and yeah, the guys you fight, none of them are above level 7. I honestly, based on the demo am not sure if you could play the actual game all the way through by only using the regular attack, I was only pointing out that the demo shows the game to be a hack n slash.

I've played hack n slash rpg's, that have stat points and leveling and all that stuff. They're not my cup of tea, all I was trying to point out is that even though you can still loot, still use tactics, still pause and study, when they claimed they were going to improve upon the combat mechanics, I was expecting more strategy and instead they moved it towards a hack n slash, mashing the x button.

I never claimed it wasn't an rpg, that it didn't have stat points, or that it didn't have depth available, I said repeatedly that it did, what point am I missing? You said they may have added more depth, now that I don't understand where you're seeing that. Same dialogue options, same stat options, same leveling system, the only changes I see, are the graphics and now you have a basic attack of hitting the x button.

I don't like the change, it's there to make the game more fast paced and flashy, they said they wanted it to be faster paced and smooth. Well it is faster paced and just because the option to be strategic is there doesn't mean the option to just mash buttons isn't there.

If there is some specific comment that you think I'm avoiding I'm not sure what it is, lay it on me, I'll address it.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

You're just repeating everything I've already said.

It just makes absolutely no sense to call this a hack 'n slash RPG because you can press an X button to attack. It's not the primary mechanic. In fact, it's basically something to do while you wait for your next skill or spell to become available.

A hack 'n slash RPG is something like Baldurs: Gate Dark Alliance. It has to be entirely real-time to be hack 'n slash and Dragon Age II most definitely does not qualify.

Like I keep saying, you're putting way too much emphasis on one feature that doesn't really change anything about the hardcore appeal.

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

Well the only reason that I've repeated what you said, is because I agree with you on those aspects, you don't seem to understand that.

You say a hack n slash has to be entirely real time, but the point of fact is, that in the dragon age 2 demo you are not required to pause at any point, you can play entirely in real time.

Just as in a hack n slash you can set a healing potion to a button command and heal without pause. I don't see how if a hack n slash is completely real time combat and in da2 you can do completely real time combat, what is the difference.

As for focusing on this one aspect, yes I am, but only because this is the only aspect I have an actual problem with. I stated that I didn't like that aspect and you made a huge deal out of it. I said that I didn't like that one aspect, now you're saying that's all I'm focusing on. Well, if we agree on the other parts, but are disagreeing about this aspect, what should I focus on?

___________
___________
9 years ago

im feeling the same way about elder scrolls, i was never going to get oblivion but then because of all the hype it convinced me to get the GOTY edition and was bored within hours.
normally i can grind through games even if i hate them i can still force myself to finish it, but that i could not was just too boring.
tis why i wont be getting the latest title, it can get 10s everywhere, get every GOTY award in the industry and i still wont buy it.
ive learned to understand those things dont mean jack sh*t!

im liking what im seeing so far with dragon age 2, sure its a little different from traditional RPGs but ive really been craving a adventure styled hack and slash game for a while now so this should do nicely.
its a shame we dont have many adventure games these days, the ps1 and ps2 were flooded with them!
now its shooter this, shooter that.

Just finished KZ3 last night, a massive improvement over the original but still disappointing.
mainly because of the length, i was playing it on the hardest difficulty available on your first try, died like 20 times a level and still only took me just over 7 hours to finish!
that would be ok for a low budget crappy third party game, but for a high budget, flagship ps3 exclusive its pretty pathetic!
the length of KZ2 was one of peoples biggest complaints so they left it?
figures, the things that should be there they remove and the things that should be changed they dont.
go figure!
hated the last level too, its so anticlimactic!
i thought you were suppose to go out with a bang, not with a fizzle.
whole game feels like a fuse is bubbling, then you get to the last level finish it and the fuse stops.
wheres the kaboom?
there was suppose to be a earth shattering kaboom!
the last level is not memorable at all!
the last level in KZ2 is by far one of the best levels ever created, one which will be remembered for decades to come!
KZ3s though, ive already forgotten it!
oh well GG, better luck with KZ4.
hopefully it will be third time lucky, not 3 strikes and your out!

King James
King James
9 years ago

Actually that last lvl in KZ2 was kinda hit or miss for a lot of ppl. I personally liked it. But a lot of ppl wasn't the 15-20 min knife fight w/ Radic.