Made a big purchase today, which means I'm ready for the future…

I guess I don't care what an "RPG" really is

The lines really are blurred these days. Role-playing elements can be found in many action/adventure titles and perhaps Obsidian is right when they say the only remaining differentiating factor is choice and player freedom . Maybe it's now inaccurate to call something like Final Fantasy XIII "role-playing." But I don't really care; I know what type of gaming I like, and I've always loved turn-based. That hasn't changed. I know it's linear; I know there's little to no "choice" involved; I know it's nothing like D&D; I'm aware of all that. But I don't care, anymore. I know what I've always liked so if the purists want to label such games as something else, fine. The problem is, we may never see any game that features that gameplay again (unless it's on a handheld) and that means I'll be stuck playing my old classics for the PS1 and PS2.

WorldEndWithMe mentioned in the Comments that he wants Suikoden VI , which I've wanted ever since I finished the fifth entry. Next to FF, Suikoden is my all-time favorite RPG (oh, whatever, call it what you want) franchise. Unfortunately, I know that even if Konami makes a sixth Suikoden , they'll muff it up and eliminate the turn-based mechanic, which will piss me off entirely. 'sigh'

Okay, so…what the hell if Final Fantasy Versus XIII?

I ask because I still know very little about it. They say we should see the official unveiling at the Tokyo Game Show, complete with new details and even gameplay…but I coulda sworn Square-Enix promised this very thing for "early 2010." What happened? I suppose I could accept the idea that many developers who worked on Final Fantasy XIII moved over to Versus XIII but FFXIII launched back in March (and well before that in Japan), so what the heck are they doing ? As far as I know it's still exclusive to the PlayStation 3 but at this point, I'm not sure I really care . I know I won't get turn-based back, but I would like something unique…you know, even though it's technically turn-based, that Judgment Ring in Shadow Hearts is an example of a unique, engaging, highly entertaining combat mechanic that can really spice up a game. Why can't we they try something like that?

Based on the details and info we have thus far, it certainly sounds intriguing. I really like the idea of some RPG elements I know and recognize that were absent from FFXIII, and everything I've seen certainly looks great. But really, could we at least get a teaser or something? And not just a CGI teaser?

Personal gaming update

This is more of a personal update because the gaming aspect hasn't changed much, although I did get a chance to play some of the Medal of Honor closed beta. It's pretty damn good, although the graphics aren't as rich as I would like them; the gameplay itself is pretty sweet, though. No, the big news is that my TV died today. Played Transformers for a few hours, went out to get something to eat, came back, and there was no picture. Got sound…but no picture. And after a while of tinkering and getting a flickering screen at best (and when it did show up, it was all distorted), I realized it was dead. But…ironically enough, I just sold my Uncharted 2 Fortune Hunter edition for a relatively healthy sum this past week, and I kinda wanted one of the new 3D TVs. Look, I'm going to need one at some point, anyway, and I actually think I can call it a business expense…

But anyway, due to my recent sale, I really only had to pay an extra $200 for the Samsung 46" 1080p 3D LED 240Hz. It's just unbelievable. Now, does anyone else have a 3D-enabled LED? Because even though I'm not watching anything in 3D, I could swear there's a distinct change in how things are moving on the screen. Blu-Ray anything is so unbelievably realistic in how people move , that it almost feels as if they're directly there in front of me. It's not the picture; per se, it's the movement . Maybe I'm just going crazy. It's quite possible. But whatever…this thing is pretty silly amazing. ๐Ÿ™‚

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556pineapple
556pineapple
10 years ago

The more realistic motion is not a feature of the 3D tv alone, but any TV that uses at least 120Hz refresh rate, I think. My roommate has just an LCD 1080p 120Hz, but when in cinema mode, the motion looks much better. (V for Vendetta made me grin.) But anyway, congratulations on the purchase. I'm sure you'll let us know how the 3D is.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
10 years ago

Most plasmas run at 600hz and yes that helps for motion. for example when watching football, the football does not get blurry, while running a higher refresh rate like 600hz. What Ben is talking about is completely different.

I've seen what he is reffering too and its almost like they are right there in front of you, making every movement right in your living room. Im not talking about while viewing in 3d either. Im saying generally.


Last edited by bigrailer19 on 6/26/2010 9:52:48 PM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
10 years ago

You might both have a point. What I'm talking about is exactly what bigrailer describes but at the same time, my old TV was only 60Hz and this one is 240Hz, so…

I have noted that when it tells me exactly the resolution and Hz for each input (which it does on a routine basis), it shows games at only 60Hz and BD movies at only 24Hz. Not sure what that's about. Movement looks the same all the time, though, including with regular non-HD TV.


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 6/26/2010 10:54:59 PM

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
10 years ago

I didnt realize your last t.v. had a 60hz refresh rate. That is a big step up for sure. It could be what your noticing. I just know that what I seen is what you were explaining as well, and I have a plasma that runsa at 600hz. I must say the 3d-tv I seen was a way better picture and the movements were so seamless.

Pineapple may have a good point since your old t.v. didn't have the refresh rate your new one does, the refresh rate makes a huge difference.

frylock25
frylock25
10 years ago

Ben the ps3 has the option to play the bluerays at the movie standard 24 fps so im pretty sure thats what it is at 24. my tv does that when i watch my bluerays. i have a 32" samsung. one of the settings in the ps3 can change that.

someone else said that the ps3 only does 60 so having a hdtv above 60 is pointless though i dont know if that is true. i dont know that the games are made for above 60 though honestly.


Last edited by frylock25 on 6/26/2010 11:10:49 PM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
10 years ago

@Frylock, the higher framrates allow the screen to refresh more frequently meaning you see a brighter, most stable image. the higher framerates also mean that the screen has a very quick response so there is no lag or blurring. In terms of frames per second, even if the source is only 60 frames per second (for example) the screen simply re-displays the same frame until it gets a new one.

fluffer nutter
fluffer nutter
10 years ago

It's definitely the 240Hz refresh rate that's making the movement so smooth. I've got a 40" Samsung TV with 120Hz AutoMotion Plus and it has three modes that drastically improve the movements on screen. It makes a big difference in gaming too. Love it. Why only 40" you say? Because it is in the bedroom. We've got the 65" in the living room.

faraga
faraga
10 years ago

@ TheHighlander
I know what you're talking about, my moms LCD monitor for her PC recently broke down, so I connected an old (1998) CRT monitor we still had to replace it until it's repaired. I noticed that running it in 60Hz made it flicker and it was really tiresome for your eyes, but increasing it to 84 or 85Hz (the max the screen would allow) made all the difference. The picture was way smoother and you could watch it as easily as any 60Hz LCD.

I know Ben didn't have a CRT TV, but this might be the kind of difference he was talking about.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
10 years ago

FYI, movies are filmed in a 24 frames per second format, and most games are run at thirty, although some are as high as sixty. I've always wondered why television manufacturers created products capable of displaying up to six hundred frames per second, and I just wanted to thank you for clarifying that it merely projects a smoother image for whatever reason.

Peace all.

SmokeyPSD
SmokeyPSD
10 years ago

those higher Hz options do nothing for gaming. the ps3 doesnt display it and it could cause problems if a tv set cant have 200hz turned off for instance

fluffer nutter
fluffer nutter
10 years ago

The higher settings do make a difference for gaming. There is an extremely noticeable improvement when I compare our 120Hz TV, set at the highest mode, to our 60Hz TV. I think it's awesome to see Sackboy move with such fluidity.

Jawknee
Jawknee
10 years ago

Yup Fluffer is correct. I have a Samsung with 120hz refresh rate and it DOES make a difference when gaming. Especially games with slower frame rates.

Shams
Shams
10 years ago

Additionally, the 600hz "subdrive" of the panasonic viera plasmas, as Bigrailer was saying, is not the same feature as Sony's 60/120/240 hz Motionflow or Samsung's Automotion. I've had both, and although I like my Viera better because of the price-point, and high contrast, and color display, it clearly doesn't have the quasi-3d motion effect that even the 120hz Automotion/MotionFlow Samsung/Sony models have. What the Viera Plasma does have is a faster response rate or less game input-lag. Again, I'm just emphasizing what Bigrailer said. That Subdrive 600hz thing is just a marketing ploy to match "numbers" on the product feature checklist, but is entirely unrelated.

As Highlander said, Motionflow/Automotion is a feature that frequently doubles/quadruples the perceived framerate by redisplaying individual frames intelligently particularly during motion or camera-pans to reduce motion blur and screen-jitter. That is what Ben has been noticing especially since the 240hz automotion plus is a doubled upgrade from his previous 120hz model.

Also, Ben, depending on your ps3 and TV settings, this can vary even more. If you have the TV's "game mode" set up for a particular input, this will reduce the "automotion" to increase response time or reduce input-lag. Also, as ps3 has the 1080p/24fps for a cinema option as Frylock referred to, you can also turn this off to have 1080p with the 240hz automotion, instead. Why take 24fps over 240hz? Supposedly this reduces screen-jutter even more effectively as cinema is typically filmed in 24fps, but most hardly notice the improvement in performance (of 24fps cinema mode).

rogers71
rogers71
10 years ago

Definitely want to get a 3D tv at some point. It is time for you to hit up some of the 3D PSN titles and let us know how they are. That means, like, right now. ha ha

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
10 years ago

Yes ben in regards to the 3d-tvs, I agree with you.

I do not have one mind you but Ive seen them whern even not playing in 3d. And I must honestly say in every way they perform better. As you said "I could swear there's a distinct change in how things are moving on the screen. Blu-Ray anything is so unbelievably realistic in how people move, that it almost feels as if they're directly there in front of me." I cant say it much better. Theres just a distinct difference from my hdtv at home and the 3d-tv I seen. They are pretty amazing.

BTW I am in the market for one, and if you dont feel its necessary to tell me the price you paid for your samsung thats fine. But as I said im in the market and if your happy with yours I may do the same. I really want a Panasonic but they can get spendy. Either way glad your happy with your purchase.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
10 years ago

The cheapest one you can get is probably the 40" Samsung (same as mine, really), for $1799 from Best Buy.

All of Sony's are over $2k and their smallest 3D-enabled TV is 46".

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
10 years ago

Nice thanks a lot! My city is getting a best buy as we speak, and wont be open til August, which is just in time for me to have the funds! ๐Ÿ˜‰

Havoc
Havoc
10 years ago

Mitzubishi 3d tv / I got a 65" from best buy last cyber monday for $999.00

NeoHumpty
NeoHumpty
10 years ago

If you've got the time, I'd check out Amazon. Ben's TV died, so he needed one fast, but if you can wait, I've noticed several hundred dollars in difference with some Amazon offerings.

Who_KilledMe
Who_KilledMe
10 years ago

I want the mitusbishi 73" 3d tv. It's almost 20" bigger than samsungs biggest and it's about $1000 cheaper. When I move into the 3d market that is what I am going for.

Crudii
Crudii
10 years ago

Well this is kinda good for us. We'll be getting 3D gaming reactions from a hardcore gamer we trust and someone who isn't afraid to speak his mind. Maybe you'll convince us all to be early adopters or maybe you'll make us put nitrous in our backside and run the other way!

P.s. Bloody hell Ben, how much did you sell that fortune hunter edition for!?

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
10 years ago

In answer to your last question, "enough." ๐Ÿ˜‰

And yes, I will certainly make my thoughts known. I still have my reservations but if I'm impressed, I'll certainly tell everyone.

Anonymous
Anonymous
10 years ago

Welcome to the darkside. Now play your Wii & enjoy the pixelated mess that will be on the beautiful tv

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
10 years ago

What Wii?

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
10 years ago

I will either buy or borrow a Wii so I can play Super Mario Galaxy 2. ๐Ÿ™‚

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
10 years ago

BTW Ben,

How you enjoying Transformers? I played the co-op a little, and enjoyed it. But I'm really impressed with the MP! What are your thoughts?

frylock25
frylock25
10 years ago

im pretty sure he will save most of his thoughts for a review. im just hoping his review makes me want the game even more.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
10 years ago

I didn't realize he was going to give a review, sorry… If that's the case my question can wait.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
10 years ago

I liked what I played. I'll leave it at that for now. ๐Ÿ™‚

fluffer nutter
fluffer nutter
10 years ago

I've heard some great things about Transformers: WfC. Maybe this game will drop in price soon since it is published by Activision. I hope the developer gets a good cut of the sales.

tlpn99
tlpn99
10 years ago

Nice one on the tv purchase Ben even if it did come at a price of the old tv breaking down.

I will get a 3D tv later on. I have only recently gotten a tv so its working fine for now so will do me for a solid good few years yet fingers crossed.

Anonymous
Anonymous
10 years ago

I like to add that thinking of what you wrote.. gets me the thinking. I'm a huge fan of wrestling. Be it indy or WWE. Yea, it's fake. But they sure do get hurt. My point is, in every generation, there are guys who stand out more than others. They do extraordinary things & put butts in seats. They become LEGEND. And as people do.. they grow old and fade away while the next guys take their spot on centered stage. The show goes on but they are never forgotten. The appreciation is respectful. When their name is told once more years later, people MARK OUT in joy. Remembering the good times that were had. Here is my analog: I think "retro" is truly in, in gaming. I would lean on that, the perfect, turn base RPG will return & we will MARK OUT in joy. I would easily expect 2d gaming to explode once more (Donkey Kong Returns, Epic Kirby, etc.) I think innovation is in a cold-stalemate. I think in order to innovate, we take a step back. I don't every publisher adopting the "Elder Scroll" formula of action-RPG. I believe in my gut, old school turn base RPG would return once all these same "formula" of sandbox meets leveling up games blow over. No one wants to be the same. My theory: "Hey, everyone is doing the same games, we should make one like back then. It's so different.. it's so new."

kraygen
kraygen
10 years ago

I wish that were true, but because of what can be done today, I think any turn based rpg to come out would probably be a download only title. I hope you're right tho.

kraygen
kraygen
10 years ago

I'm really excited you got this because like others I want to know what someone thinks of the new 3d in home tech.

Questions about suikoden games. I played the first one on the psn and enjoyed it quite a bit, not as much as ff series, but it was a lot of fun. How is the rest of the series, I'd like to play them, but some of them are super expensive new and I don't trust buying games that old. Any tips or advice would be welcome.

I'm still trucking away at ff9, its a lot of fun and soon I should get the first star ocean for psp, looking forward to trying out that series.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
10 years ago

If you enjoyed the original Suikoden, you'll love the others. Suikoden II is like three times as long and even better in terms of polish (even though I have a soft spot for the first one), and Suikoden III for the PS2 was awesome.

Suikoden IV was a letdown, IMO, but Suikoden V was a return to form. You really can't go wrong with any of them if you're an old-school RPG fan.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
10 years ago

I got a used copy of Suikoden V for about $25 and it's in pretty good condition. The point is it plays without messing up. You seriously can't miss out on that game if you even remotely like the series. My order:
1.)V
2.)II
3.)III
4.)IV (I didn't think it was as bad as others say)
5.)I (Great but way behind the others in so many areas.)

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
10 years ago

I think III might actually be my favorite, just because I loved that three-character system.

But I really only go back to play the original because it's short and I love it so much. Certainly, later installments are better in most areas but I don't care. ๐Ÿ™‚

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
10 years ago

III was pretty cool but I found Thomas' part to be incredibly boring and it took forever to get the headquarters up to snuff. Still Chris Lightfellow is one of my favorite characters in the entire series. (And that's a LOT of characters).

kraygen
kraygen
10 years ago

I thumbed up each comment because they all told me one thing. I've played the first one and now I have to find a way to play the rest.

I guess one good thing about not being able to get into video games until I was older, I have plenty of great rpgs to play for the first time.

kraygen
kraygen
10 years ago

Ok, need some more help.

I went and did some looking for suikoden 2, I'd love to play it, but the only place I can even find it, is amazon. As much as I want to play it, there's no way I'm paying $85 for it.

No gamestop withing 200 miles has it, hastings doesn't have it.

Any ideas?

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
10 years ago

Well you could always wait, I'm guessing it will eventually come to PSN.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
10 years ago

Suikoden II is one of the more rare games in existence. I would really recommend III or V for the PS2 while you wait to see if Konami brings it to the PSN.

World: Yeah, Thomas really was boring but I totally agree. I LOVED Chris. She was the one I chose to be the…whatever that special person was…Fire something? Don't remember.

kraygen
kraygen
10 years ago

ok, I just read somewhere that a few of the games stories were in line, like 2 and 3 followed the first 1, but maybe when I finish ff9 I'll just pick up whichever one I can find at a decent price.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
10 years ago

Flame Champion Ben ๐Ÿ™‚ Kinda stupid name, but I chose her too.

shadowscorpio
shadowscorpio
10 years ago

Have to agree that Suikoden series is also one of my favs. I really didn't have a beef with any of them. Granted thaey all have slightly different styles but they all have grounded similarities and connections to each other.

I think that I still want a Suikoden 6. Konami just needs to realized that not every game needs to be an intended block buster. Its okay to stick to a franchises roots even when developing on a next -gen gaming console.

frylock25
frylock25
10 years ago

thats crazy you sold it for enough to score a new tv like that, and if you get that money back from getting to claim it… you lucky s.o.b.

anyway, im a long way off from getting one of those tv's but i hope you dont make me to jealous in all your future articles lol.

personal gaming update: i bought heavy rain this past week and love it. i have beat it twice and even got my gf playing it. she is horrible and screws up a lot. she is having a hard time with remembering what button is what. as long as she is happy playing it gets her off my back. Heavy rain is amazing. the story is wonderful.

been playin mag new dlc interdiction. i think it is cool i like how open it is. doesnt feel like as much pressure as domination.

ive seen heavenly sword for $20, assasins creed 2 for $40 and that new transformers game just came out. i have a huge transformers fan and i really want to play that.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
10 years ago

I'm aware I was lucky. And no, I won't be bringing it up unless it's relevant. ๐Ÿ˜‰

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
10 years ago

The transformers game is very very fun. The game is a tribute to fans for sure. The characters both auto bots a decepticons look and sound like they did in the cartoons. The war is very interesting and puts it in a timeline before they come to earth. I truly believe the developers are also huge fans of transformers! I think if your a fan you will enjoy the game. It definately seperates itself from those movie tie ins!

The mp is very fun, transforming is seamless, and the customization of your transformer(s) you create is actually pretty in depth, as well as the ranking system!

There is a nazi zombie type mode, thats is very hard but very fun! You go through waves killing transformers and gain points to unlock weapons, doors, and upgrades!

And I've played a few moments of the campaign (the MP is just too fun) co-operatively online and it was very fun. A lot of action going on in the world, and a lot of involvement. Although the missions are pretty long, (which isnt necessarily bad) the game flows well.

If your a fan I'd look into it!

frylock25
frylock25
10 years ago

@ Ben, dont hold back to much ๐Ÿ˜‰ we want to know about it. lol

@ Bigrailer thanks for the imput on that i really want to score a copy of it. i have all the 80's cartoons on dvd and am missin the first season of beastwars but i have 2 and 3. i have a crappy ps1 game of beastwars, the ps2 one before the movies that was actually pretty good, and the first movie game for ps2. that was actually my last ps2 game before i got my ps3. i did not like that second movie game at all and even the first one was lame. the more i see of it the more i get excited for it.

when i saw Ben had been playing it i really wanted to ask about it but i figured he was mentioning it as a hint for a review coming. after the positive feedback i am getting about it from you, Ben and some people on my friends list… i just need to wait to get money.

hellish_devil
hellish_devil
10 years ago

@frylock25

"…and even got my gf playing it. she is horrible…"

Did you just said your girlfriend is horrible???

lol


Last edited by hellish_devil on 6/27/2010 12:36:53 AM