Keep an eye out for our Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Fortune Hunter Edition giveaway, and in the meantime…well, it's a Saturday night and I'm trying to finish Katamari Forever .

"Boring" is very, very subjective

We all know this, but it's even more subjective than one might believe. When Gearbox boss Randy Pitchford said Borderlands wouldn't be as "boring" as Fallout 3 , despite the similarity in regards to huge, expansive environments, I know what he means. A different sort of person might be interested in Borderlands , which features a lot more straight-up action. But this leads me to an additional point: even if you're a FPS fan and you enjoy that sort of action, you might not like the depth and RPG elements of Gearbox's promising title while at the same time, being a role-playing aficionado doesn't necessarily mean you'll like Fallout 3 . I've been an RPG fan for a very long time and the latter never once interested me; I really would find it immensely boring. It just isn't my thing and I don't understand why people are surprised; they're like, "oh, you're an RPG fan…how can you not like Fallout ?" Easy.

My point is that Pitchford was only going to rub people the wrong way because whenever you label a game as "boring," you're guaranteed to annoy a few people. There will inevitably be a group of fans out there who think the game you're referring to is pretty damn fun, so Randy should shelve that word in the future. I get what he was saying, but it can only amount to no good (even if you're promoting the fun factor of your own project).

Um…maybe action games CAN be too fast

I've always loved the Ninja Gaiden series but after playing the demo for Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 , I realized that perhaps the speed has finally gotten to the point where it actually annoys me. I mean, I had a blast with that demo but it's kinda tough to string together any sort of combo strategy when the speed is so freakin' blinding. I don't remember the first NG on the Xbox being this fast and when it comes to "hectic," I do believe there's a line…and Tecmo may have crossed it. I remember trying out Ayane and going, "um, where'd she go?" There is definitely a distinct difference between something like this and God of War , which I find to have perfect, most refined gameplay speed. The combat in NG has always been awesome and it truly is demanding, but you always have fun when playing GoW; NG has always felt a bit more like a chore. And Sigma 2 , while fun at times, started to feel like a chore even after 45 minutes with the demo…which is a bad sign. So I had to pass.

Personal gaming update

As I said before, I'm nearing the end of Katamari Forever and it's definitely getting a little more challenging. In fact, this might be the most difficult installment yet; of course, when I say "difficult," I just mean mildly tough. The time limits seem to be a little more restricting than in other entries in the series, and the levels are designed in a way that requires you to really have a plan of attack. You can't just roll around aimlessly, especially in the later levels. I want to get this done because both Uncharted 2: Among Thieves and Brutal Legend release this week, and I'm definitely getting both. That'll take up some time right there and although it has never been my thing, I might want to try Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time at the end of the month. It's going to be awesome, I'm sure.

Beyond that, I'm sure there are still plenty of reviews to do. And as for anything else of interest…well, can't think of anything. Sorry. 🙂

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therabbitkinge
therabbitkinge
11 years ago

Well I hear you on the "boring" comment its really not good to use that term so generally especially when todays gamer is such a varied beast ^_^

Action games have begun to get a tad cocky nowadays, it feels to me they want us to be as superhuman as the in-game characters lol with the way they move and the insane combo list I feel less empowered with each new release T^T

And man am I psyched about Brutal legend (guns in games always sorta freak me out since I grew up around a bit to much gun violence so no uncharted for me sadly) and I am dying to play katamari forever especially since it seems longer and more difficult since the last one. Hopefully going to get three great titles all at once with the toys 'r' us deal that starts today ^_^

Thanks for the weekend wrap up Ben ol' chap.

Charger7302
Charger7302
11 years ago

Personally, I don't think there is such a thing as a "too fast action game", but i see what u mean.

My personal gaming update:
I just got done with my 5th "playthrew" of Resistance2, and I'm so excited about the possibility of that Resistance 3 billboard bein legit. Hopefully it is because R2(IMO) didn't live up too it's predecessor single player experience.

The_R0gue_Ninja
The_R0gue_Ninja
11 years ago

I agree with you. Ninja Gaiden Sigma & Sigma 2 are very fast! Sometimes they can seem a little ridiculous, but if they were any slower it wouldn't be a ninja game. Once you get used to the speed, you really feel like one!

Fane1024
Fane1024
11 years ago

Ummm…ninjas sneak in and kill silently. The Tenchu games are the only real ninja games.

fluffer nutter
fluffer nutter
11 years ago

Fallout 3 never interested me. Even when I saw the CE going for $24 when Circuit City went out of business. I'm going to open Katamari Forever one of these days and can't wait to have Brutal Legend show up at my door on Monday. UPS already has it at the local facility but I didn't feel like picking it up today. I can wait. So many games, so little time. Guy's got to eat some time…

NightHawk17
NightHawk17
11 years ago

i played it and it just didnt feel "fun" to me

chucknasty
chucknasty
11 years ago

I have also over extended myself on games the last few months. I picked up Katamari, Saw and Demon's Souls with Uncharted 2 and Brutal Legend coming Tuesday…I have some serious catching up to do this weekend and I need to play a bit of the demo to try for the CE U2 package.
I am contemplating adult diapers to avoid the need to leave the couch.

NightHawk17
NightHawk17
11 years ago

Not interested in Demons Souls Ben?

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
11 years ago

Played it, reviewed it…no, not my thing.

NightHawk17
NightHawk17
11 years ago

eh, different strokes for different folks:)

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

It's not a true rpg either. It's an exercise in frustration, like NG.

LegendaryWolfeh
LegendaryWolfeh
11 years ago

what makes it a true rpg? I thought an RPG meant you played a game in which you developed a character in a way you wanted? pretty sure that fits this category.

NiteKrawler
NiteKrawler
11 years ago

@Alien: Demon's Souls isn't a role playing game? Maybe it's a FPS? Anyway, I'd like to know when exactly games stopped being challenging. Gamers don't seem to like challenge anymore. Spoiled, I say. I love Demon's Souls and while I've died about a zillion times as Ben assured me I would, I find myself extremely satisfied throughout the game…as Ben assured me I would. More challenge yields more satisfaction, unless you're Mick Jagger of course.

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

@ LegendaryWolfeh – You're absolutely right. By your description Fallout 3 is an RPG as well but apparently there are some around here who are too l337 for non jrpg RPGs and feel they can call out Western RPGs as non authentic. Just thought I'd point out how stupid that accusation is.

Schmitty
Schmitty
11 years ago

Maybe the fact that you cant keep up with NG is a sign of your aging ben. 🙂

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
11 years ago

It's certainly possible.

But you should see what I can still do with Amplitude, even with only my thumb. 😉

___________
___________
11 years ago

ben i really must insist you pick up NGS2.
the demo really did the game no justice.
if anything, the combat is slower than NG 2 and i found the combos much much easier to pull off.
and i really suck at NG, so if i can pull of the combos anyone can.

Akuma_
Akuma_
11 years ago

I agree with the above sentiments. check my comment down below.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

Action games got too fast for me ages ago, not that I can't play them obviously but I find that my character's move comes so fast that there is a kind of lag between my pressing the buttons and the onscreen actions. Amazingly a person can usually get by well just button mashing.

Qubex
Qubex
11 years ago

I need mild electrode shocks to my brain whilst chewing gum in order to wined up the reaction time. Other methods would be an an electrically charge skull cap, or a jack in port connected straight into the brain stem…

That should do it WorldsEnd…

Q!

"i am home"

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

I have to pull a "Crank" and drink sixty thousand red bulls while shoving adrenaline sniffers up my nose 🙂

___________
___________
11 years ago

i just think developers/publishers and CO should just shut up and let their game do the talking.
simple, no?
if the games good im sure us gamers are smart enough to realize that.
games need 2 things to sell well.
1 marketing, something sony does not know how to do.
2 good reviews from press and such, but none of this gigantic hype.
KZ2 U2 for examples the hype behind these games is ridiculous, so im bound to be disappointed once playing said game.

also when these people run their mouths off it actually does the complete opposite of what their wanting.
when they have to tell us how good there game is and start bagging other games, that tells me there trying to hide flaws in their game by bagging others and that there not that confident in their game.
turn 10 and forza 3 for a perfect example.
i was going to get forza 3 but turn 10s fat mouth have really turned me off.

___________
___________
11 years ago

just checked game to see if they have a updated release for uncharted 2,and i found something very interesting.
now this is probably a mistake or whatever but theres allot of piling evidence supporting this.
according to game mass effect 2 is coming to the PS3 same day as the 360 and PC on 10/1/2010.
normally i would think its a mistake, but not so long ago for a few minutes EA had this listed as ps3 also.
coincidence?
theres been so many rumors and quite a few pieces of evidence supporting the rumor.
so i think its true.
but than if it is why have EA or sony not announced it yet.
if its really is releasing on the 10/1/2010 they dont have much time, and all the big gaming conferences are finished.
this would of made a PERFECT gamescom announcement.

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

Pitchford made the old "My product is better than a blockbuster product" comment fail. Thankfully though his comment made me take a step back and be more cautious about buying his product. If I loved F3 but he finds F3 boring, then will I like his product? I will wait for reviews from both critics and gamers before I buy.

As for NGS2, well, it's boring.


Last edited by Alienange on 10/11/2009 1:22:07 AM

bOnEs
bOnEs
11 years ago

that's how i feel… he's calling my favorite game "boring"… maybe i don't want more fast-paced action… maybe i like the idea of a desolate wasteland where the reward was exploring… you didn't expect to see enemies around every corner in the wasteland because, most of it is gone…

borderlands action might be too much in my opinion but, i will wait for reviews and gather my opinion then… but for now, that was a pretty "bold" statement and probably something that will hurt his sales with the fallout 3 fans that were interested… when you diss a game of the year, your bound to get some backlash :)…

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

What sucks is that I'm still interested in Borderlands. Games transcend idiotic comments.

GuernicaReborn
GuernicaReborn
11 years ago

I'm incredibly excited for Uncharted 2. I've been playing the demo nonstop. That right there is my week in review.

Also, I can't believe nobody asked Ben about the Fortune Hunter Edition giveaway. Usually if we press him enough he'll give us some sort of hint in the comments….

So, lets have it Ben. Whats the plan?

NightHawk17
NightHawk17
11 years ago

sorry off topic but what picture is your avatar? i believe it's a painting but i dont know the title

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

I thought it was a picture of the last Katamari he rolled.

GuernicaReborn
GuernicaReborn
11 years ago

It's called Guernica, by Picasso. The actual painting is enormous, I mean it would cover the side of a one story Ranch. It's 11' x 26'. It was painted after the bombing of a Basque town in Spain a little before WWII started.

soli
soli
11 years ago

fallout 3 was my 2008 GOTY..ahh good times…

Godslim
Godslim
11 years ago

i cant make up my mind about borderlands tbh….i thought fallout was good even if really buggy and did get a bit boring after a while

Ultimate_Balla
Ultimate_Balla
11 years ago

Devil may cry 4 has the perfect speed for an action game IMO. I'll buy uncharted after tekken. . . And word up on the boring thingie, s'like how i found prince of persia: warrior within a favourite and y'all gave it a 6.5. Lol.

www
www
11 years ago

Dude I see Tekken is your personal highly anticipated game of all time, OF ALL TIME! You've said this countless times, anyways I'll be getting Tekken 6 alongside Uncharted 2. I don't think you should get U2 AFTER Tekken 6. Try and get both!

GuernicaReborn
GuernicaReborn
11 years ago

I thought PoP:WW was a great game too! I was so disappointed with the new game though.

Fane1024
Fane1024
11 years ago

POP: WW improved on a lot of the (minor) weaknesses of POP: SOT, but it lost a lot of the charm. The "extreme" attitude was grating, IMO (and many others').

www
www
11 years ago

Fallout 3 may seem boring but that's just some sweetness to that game. I enjoyed it a lot. The graphics on the other hand gives you a headache.


Last edited by www on 10/11/2009 8:10:39 AM

Akuma_
Akuma_
11 years ago

DEAR BEN,

I am extremely confused.

Didn't PSX review NG sigma 2 recently? with an 8.4
Even if im wrong, ben your experience with NG sigma 2 in this article is about the demo. It's not the best thing in the world to make judgements about a games demo, especially when the full version is available, dont you think?

Also when you talk about the thing with borderlands and fallout 3 your saying that fallout 3 isnt your thing, that you may think its boring.
But in the article where you talked about the news, you called fallout 3 "an excellent RPG".

You also stated that he may "also be apart of that [the group that thinks F3 is borign] group" when you yourself have just stated you are a part of that group.

I havn't come across such confusing statements on this website in the years i have been coming here. Doesn't inspire alot of faith Ben.

tes37
tes37
11 years ago

There are a lot of times when people think something will appeal to them and it doesn't. That seems to be the case with me when it comes to video games.

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

Two things I see wrong here.

1. Arnold reviewed NGS2 and only HE can have the review copy. He can't be passing it around the office for friends and family to play. So no, Ben only had access to the Demo and didn't like it.

2.Ben reviews games. He's a critic and a journalist. He knows an excellent game when he sees one. He knows why many people like it and what makes it fun for them. That doesn't mean it's to HIS personal tastes.

GuernicaReborn
GuernicaReborn
11 years ago

Also, Arnold and Ben aren't even in the same state. It's not like they can trade games whenever they feel like it.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
11 years ago

Yes, my experience was with the demo. I wasn't making any final judgments about anything; I was merely questioning my desire to play a game that might be that fast. It's called opinion and has no bearing on the game's quality.

Which is why when I say that Fallout 3 is an excellent RPG, I say that because it's the truth. Just because I find it boring doesn't change the inherent quality. Opinion does NOT dictate quality. So stop thinking that.

For future reference, if you want to make an entire post designed to annoy me rather than contribute to the actual discussion, I would ask that you please resist the urge.

kevinater321
kevinater321
11 years ago

"That'll take up some time right there and although it has never been my thing, I might want to try Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time at the end of the month."…..i think i'm reading this wrong, but it sounds like you said you….don't like r&c. WTF BEN!

tes37
tes37
11 years ago

I agree with Ben, I am also passing on NGS2 after playing the demo.
Uncharted 2 will be on my doorstep tuesday and I can't wait. I finally talked one of my friends into getting a ps3 slim and Tekken is all he usually plays. I'll be getting a copy of Tekken 6 just so I don't get slaughtered everytime I play against him. Ratchet and Clank is on my list of game purchases for October also.

tlpn99
tlpn99
11 years ago

I too am passing on the NG2 after the demo I realised it wasn't for me. I may just buy Uncharted 2 and save Brutal Legend until I have completed Uncharted 2 or till it can appear in the bargain bin or even a pre owned copy as I will be busy with Uncharted 2 for quite some time. Plus with everything else coming out it has to be put back till there is a space in my gaming schedule.


Last edited by tlpn99 on 10/11/2009 10:11:36 AM

GuernicaReborn
GuernicaReborn
11 years ago

I was just checking out my deals and SonyStyle.com has an 80GB PS3(fat) for $250.00, as well as a refurbished 40GB console for $220.00, both great deals!

bebestorm
bebestorm
11 years ago

Im loving Sigma 2! Im addicted to the bayonetta demo. I'll be getting brutal legend,uncharted,tekken 6,and maybe borderlands.

redman479
redman479
11 years ago

The camera angle killed it for me in NG2. Why has there been no review for Brutal Legend? Makes me wonder, so I'll pass on it.

redman479
redman479
11 years ago

As far as Borderlands concerned, I'm not really feeling that artistic style of there's. The video's for it seem ok but it's not my cup of tea!

lfcjake
lfcjake
11 years ago

Uncharted 2 bebbe! Can't wait… Add me guys if you're getting it… 'lfcjake87'