Ben-DutkaWe've seen some amazing-looking PlayStation 3 games already but as most developers say, the best is yet to come.
Just ask Crytek, who claims that Crysis 2 will once again set the visual bar for the rising console. We've seen that bar set and reset several times before; the likes of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots , Killzone 2 , Uncharted 2: Among Thieves , Heavy Rain , and God of War III have continued to redefine the nature of excellent visual effects in the interactive entertainment medium. We should also add that the cut-scenes in Final Fantasy XIII are tough to match. And according to what Crytek's lead PS3 programmer Michael Gluck told Play magazine (as summarized by NowGamer ), Crysis 2 will set "a whole new benchmark."
"With each generation of game titles on PS3, usually every 2 years, the games improve significantly in its quality, mostly showing off in graphics. I think with Crysis 2 you will see the quality bar being set at a very high level that games will struggle to excel. We’re aiming to set a whole new benchmark with that game for all PS3 games."
At this rate, it's more like every year rather than every 2 years, but we get his meaning. Still, Gluck says he's not sure how much further they can go with the PS3, although he's convinced the next game – using the CryEngine 3 – will "be more polished and have higher quality in all areas." But they say not to expect a "major improvement in graphics" with Crysis 3 because they "try not to cut any graphical feature and rather optimize it until it becomes feasible." It all sounds very exciting but we should probably add that every title that pushes the PS3 in terms of graphics is exclusive to that system. Being a multiplat, as good as they say Crysis 2 will look…it's still a multiplat. But you never know.
Related Game(s): Crysis 2
My free trial of Live just expired, and I have asked several of my friends who play nearly exclusively on the $3.60 on why I should get a subcription, IE – what's the value? I am met with silence.
Well , they do have a brilliant track record , I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be true .
This is alot of hype.
And as alot of people have said – I'll believe it when I see it.
I think the only way they could possibly 'raise the bar' for the PS3 is if they developed the PS3 version separately, to take proper advantage of the PS3's architecture. Not much room for porting in either direction… I'd think that would be costly.
These guys know their stuff though, so lets just wait and see what they can pull off. Either way, I'm sure it'll look amazing.
Day1 PC purchase for me. Glad all you PS3 FPS fans get to experience what I consider a very well made and enjoyable FPS series.
I'm not too sure about their comment "setting new graphical bar for PS3" considering like most of you have mentioned they're also working on the PC and 360 versions.
If my Vaio can run it, i may just give it a try on my computer too.
::sigh:: Jawky, why did you buy a Vaio?
lol i the last one i had was great. never had any issues with it. very reliable hardware. Btw you never told me if my video card was sufficient for running PC games.
its a NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M.
Absolutely, sorry I didn't respond to your email sooner. Any new game should run just fine (not counting Crysis2) if it's anything like when Crysis came out (I had to get a new videocard). Also you mentioned CSS, you should be able to run it at max settings.
I love Sony products but I've always viewed their PCs like I do Apples, way too overpriced.
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$1300 may have been kind of steep but i paid a lot more for my previous Vaio with way less specs. So far I'm happy with it. Although i could be kicking my self in the ass if you showed me what to get next time. ha!
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Crysis was definitely a graphical masterpiece. However this claim seems pretty outlandish. Does anyone know what platform they are leading with?
I don't believe it now, and when I see it released I know my mind probably won't need changing.
Might set a graphics bar on pc tho, that, I'd believe.
PC
well, if one $300.00 beast can nip at the heels of a $3,000.00 PC is the black beauty, AKA: PS3
Let's see how they approach the development process for the game.
I think you mean $1200.
As stated many times above, I will only believe it when I see it, and I don't think they can if they want to make both console version look the "same".
But not in gameplay. And that's what matters.
Also, if they exclusively developed for the PS3, then there would be some credibility to their statement.
I'm not hating on Crytek, or the Crysis games, cuz they're really fun, it's just that I don't like hearing this kind of statement from a multi-platform developer.
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Lies and Gorilla dust.
Put your money where your mouth is Crytek.
I thought they were tweaking the engine to support all three platforms. I thought of them as sub engines that were very different in their own respects but this is probably not the case. I don't really care for the visuals if the game's story is as bad as the first one.
How? aren't you developing this on a Xbox oh you lied….
Be pleasing to see this happening though.
I'll get the PC version that's for sure as it will definitely be the best version.
Crytek do not usually talk out of their ass when it comes to visuals, afaik they have been tweaking the engine for each platform so if anyone could pull it off they could.
The lead will the the PC as that is where the cutting edge power is and with the 360'a architecture and environment being far closer to the PC they have hopefully invested in some bods that know the in's and out of the PS3's innards to take advantage of what it can offer.
I thought this game was going to be on xbox aswell? surely it can't set the bar for ps3 when it's multiplat?
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I'm skeptical of their claim. I can't think of any middleware games that look better than exclusively designed ones. If this dev starts voicing specific SPU processing jobs being handled by their engine then I may be hopeful.
And has Crytek ever released a really impressive looking console game? I know the first Crysis, and Far Cry before it, looked great for PC. But the PC resources those games required in order to achieve the quality visuals were significant. When I look at something like Uncharted 2 and GoW3, games made from a quazi-7600gt powered graphics chip(and CELL augmentation), I'm led to believe that exclusive console devs (Santa Monica studios/Naughty Dog) are always in the business of getting the most mileage out of the least amount of resources.
I thought I heard that the 2 versions would be developed individually to maximize the hardwares' efficiency. That sounds about right to me cause they're graphics freaks.
There's a lot of ambiguity in that claim. Capcom's MT Framework engine sounds similar to the Cryengine3. The MT Framework is easily scaleable based on the hardware resources. Games such as Lost Planet, DMC4, and RE5, I believe were all based on this same graphics engine. Do any of those games look extraordinarily better? In fact, both Lost Planet, and RE5, performed and looked better on 360 with that scaleable engine.
And processing is only part of it. Keep in mind, every PS3 has a HDD. Look at how often your HDD light flashes while you play through GoW3. The game is constantly streaming data from BD to the HDD as you play. An HDD streams data fast. The amount of scripted events in something like GoW3 would most likely have taken into account, and carefully measured, the rate of data transfer. These fundamental hardware distinctions, including, also, Blu-Ray capacity, may change the very design direction by the creative team.
After reading some comments, I wonder just how many of y'all even played it PC…on Ultra settings..
I remember reading somewhere that they look the same on both consoles.. what is this madness. Honestly who cares as long as the game with the best graphics is available to the ps3 i'm fine with it as long as it's not an xbox exclusive
anyone who is doubtful that this will be the best looking game on all platforms for release is deluding themselves!
all you have to do is fork out 3K for a proper gaming PC and go look at crysis, than your mind will be made up.
if not, you need some glasses, and maybe a brain transplant!
just because a games multiplatform does not mean it cant have the best graphics.
i point you to KZ2 everyone was saying the 360 cant do graphics that good, well go look at brink.
we have not seen any trailers of RAGE or half life 2 epp 3 or crysis 2 but when they do that theory which is already debunk will finally be put to bed!
i cant wait till crysis 2 comes out, sept 24th the white birdys telling me.
but i wont be getting it on ps3, ill be playing it the way its meant to be played.
full HD, DX11,3D, 16 times AA, and a whole set of visual effects the ps3 can only dream about!
i am of course talking about the PC!
i wish developers would stop being so tight a$$ed and make games FOR PC instead of giving us crappy ports.
if i can shell out 3K plus 1K for a 3D update AND IM NOT EVEN WORKING!!! than im sure you can shell out to make the PC version the best it could be.
simple,no?
All the Brink stuff I have seen has been on the PC, remember to be a Games for Windows game you are required to have 360 controller support so videos that have the 360's controllers buttons on the screen for actions do not mean that it is on the 360.
up until E3 last year yeah that was the PC version, but gamescom i think it was they showed of 360 version and it looks almost as good.
the developers have said many times that all 3 versions will look relativity the same, besides a few features only available to the PC like tessellation.
anyway theres a few games on the 360 now that look just as good as KZ2, metro 2033, ME2 and splinter cell conviction, alan wake, crackdown 2 and halo reach releasing soon and will top those also.
haha metro 2033.. really?
@tommccrossin
Don't listen to him, no 360 games looks better than KZ2. Anything intelligent he says is ruined by his spoiled, whinny baby attitude but I don't think I have ever seen anything intelligent in his postings.
we may not have trailers of crysis 2, but they do have some amazing pictures out. and it looks, godly.
I'm not being a fanboy but nothing I have for the 360 comes close to KZ2. I own ME and have seen ME2 running and neither top KZ2 for visuals, same with the Alan Wake and metro 2033 with the vids I have seen.
I am sure Halo Reach will be the best looking 360 game as M$ will be pushing hard for it to be, just as they were with Halo 3, but it feels like they are playing catchup.
hello …
from the videos of CryEngine 3, i would tend to agree with this statement.
in fact if some multiplat developer could create an exclusive version for each platform of the same story plot but with MAXxed GFX on each respective system, it's surely Crytek & i will go with it.
I think i will get Crysis 2 on the best GFX platform ever – the PC! but i think it may cost me enough to buy 10 more PS3 games, so if the GFX is UC2 good it will be enough for me, now better would be impressive!
so let time tell who's right & let me play (or at least start playing)
cheers!
No offense but if they are saying they cant go much farther on the PS3, this is where they have failed in voicing there opinion. Every dev who said they have maxed out the PS3 has'nt done so. And those claiming outrageous things like SE about the graphics also didnt have much truth in their voice.
Companies actually working solely with the PS3 and actually putting there time in, are saying they are not even pushing thwe PS3 at all. Stig Asmussen (GOW3), in the making of GOW3 video had set GOW 3 maybe pushes 50% of the PS3 power. Due to time with the machine and a release frame its obvious they cant tap into everything until the next go round. My point is GOW3 , along with UC2, and KZ2 even MGS thos games are eye candy for sure, and absolutely some of the most stunning games ever, across all platforms.
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I've been wondering for a while now, will Crysis 1 also be released on the PS3?
I mean, most people who own a PS3 cannot afford a high end gaming PC to play Crysis, so wouldn't people be going in blind on the storyline?
Since Crysis 2 is obviously going to be a great hit, I just feel sad that so many people are going to have to miss out on Crysis 1.
I myself have a high end PC to play Crysis 1, so I luckily will know what's happening in Crysis 2.
I also do not plan on buying Crysis 2 for the PS3, I feel it will be limited in so many ways when compared to the PC version.
Or maybe I'll buy it on all 3 systems? Yeah, that will work. 🙂
I'm going to go and play Heavy Rain now. 🙂
-Wiiplay.
I can afford one, I just don't want to have to afford one every god damn year!
Most PC's nowadays are good for around 5 years assuming you get a descent one and don't try to jump straight into flight simulators and such. I'm on my 3rd PC in 17 years. My current one is just under two years old. In that same time frame I've bought 6 consoles. 3 of them being re-buys due to the bad lasers the PS2 suffered from.
3 PC's in 17 years and you managed to keep playing games at a good 30 – 60 fps at high resolution with the best graphical and sound settings enabled, no offence but I do not believe you. Even if you spent an obscene amount of money on each of those PC rigs you are not going to get any more than 4 years out of them.
I have played Crysis on the PC and will more likely buy it on PS3 when it comes out. Luckily I have the luxury of renting it first to see how it plays on the PS3. Crysis on the PC was flawed mainly because of their excuse you had to spend alot of money just to get the PC up to spec to have high framerates. Crysis 2 on the PS3 should hopefully solve this provided the port was done properly, we won't know until the release so time will tell.
The one glaring difference between the various versions is that Crytek has already said that the PC version won't have the draw distance limitation that the console versions will have due to the amount of memory available.
From what I've seen so far of Crysis 2 (including the latest trailers and tech demo) I'm not that impressed! Certainly does not look even close to as impressive as Uncharted 2 or even Killzone 2. The screenshots do look slightly better than the videos I've seen, but until I see actual in-game video from the game I'll remain sceptical. In fact, I'd say so far Crysis 2 looks worse than the original game.