Ben-DutkaJust think of all the PS1 Capcom titles you'd like to see arrive on the PlayStation Network for download…there are plenty, right?
Thus far, Capcom has been one of the best PSN supporters out there, releasing several PS1 classics in digital format, including selections in the famed Resident Evil , Street Fighter and Dino Crisis franchises. And according to Corporate Officer and Vice President of Strategic Planning & Business Development at Capcom, Chris Svensson, the publisher ian't done yet. He replied to a thread in the Capcom-Unity forums , which asked if more PS1 classics will be headed our way:
"Still working on a few more. I'll need to be vague on title names for now until we get them fully locked and loaded."
So, whaddya want? The most popular requests seem to revolve around the role-playing Breath of Fire classics, although there's strong lobbying for the Mega Man Legends series as well as Strider 2 , Rival Schools , and of course, more from the RE and SF franchises. Perhaps if you make your voices heard over there, Capcom will be more likely to pursue the re-publication of those old-school gems in a new-school format. The PSN has really become the home for classics from yesteryear, hasn't it? The more they add, the more we can sample that PS1 flavor; many of those classics age like a fine wine.
Man oh man, if we can get both Mega Man Legends on there, that will be a first day purchase for me. I loved both of them. Come on Capcom, keep'em coming.
Tronne Bonne too!
Last edited by Orvisman on 2/2/2010 11:27:08 AM
I'm still holding back on downloading these awesome PS1 games until i see what that PSN subscriptions has to offer.
I want The Misadventures Of Tron Bonne on PSN!
I imported the PSP version of Breath of Fire III from Europe – cool game. Capcom would be well served by bringing more PS1 classics to PSN as well as bringing more PSP games to PSN.
Yes they will, there's many great games that any people would purchase or even repurchase to have on their hard drives!
I'm glad to see that they keep on adding more and more classics to PSN, it really is great to see PSN getting this type of support from a publisher like Capcom.
Last edited by to_far_apart on 2/2/2010 12:17:40 PM
Highlander, did you get your copy of WKC? no one has it yet here in Denver. I thought today was it's release day?
Jawknee
Unfortunately it is shipping today and releases tommorow. Why they decided to announce the shipping date and not the release date is beyond me.
EDIT: To clarify.. some lucky gamers might find it in store today but most will not have it available until tommorow so I guess there is no official release date
Last edited by piratedrunk on 2/2/2010 2:42:55 PM
Weird. Thanks for the info.
No problem. Man I can't wait for this game
me too. I drove to 5 places today. All of them said I wasn't the only person who came in looking for it too.
Yeah, same here Jawknee. I went to two Gamestops by my house and they both said the same thing. Waking up early tomorrow to get it. My day off will be devoted to playing the crap out of it 🙂
Last edited by chedison on 2/2/2010 9:13:48 PM
For a sec there I read the title as "Capcom Not Bringing PS1 Classics To The PSN"… Scared the hell out of me.
Haha, I did the exact same thing.
haha looks like I wasn't the only one who read it wrong
I'm dying to play Breath of Fire III. I played the first two on the SNES. I never did with the third game, because I dont own a PSone.
It was a solid and underrated game with probably the most fun fishing minigame ever. I still play it every couple years or so. BoF4 is the one I have been wanting to play that game is way too hard to find.
good ol' PS1 days.. I cant remember too many games that I played on that system it seemed to just come and go next thing ya know I was playing PS2. I guess bringing back these classi games lets peeps like me re-cap and check some of those PS1 games that were missed… although there is soo much better sh$t out there now that gets my interests.
Breath of Fire III and IV please.
Last edited by Jawknee on 2/2/2010 11:38:51 AM
Oh god, I would freak out if these came out. If FF 9 came out along with those, Id immediately go out to by me a psp lol.
I'd take Strider over Strider 2.
I'd love the arcade version of Strider.
As far as I know, Resident Evil(1-3), Dino Crisis nor Street Fighter are on the EU PSN.
What`s the hold up?
Why can't Sony release PS2 games via PSN?
Because there isn't a software emulation for the PS2 that works in real time. The GPU on the PS2 was a very custom piece of engineering and is extremely hard to emulate even on something as powerful as the Cell.
Can't they just retool the software to work on the PS3?
World,
I was actually thinking the same thing. But I don't know if that would take additional expenses, time, etc. I would like to see some PS2 games start making their way towards PSN, but like Highlander said, maybe the fact that the GPU on the PS2 was so unique, that emulation on the Cell really hasn't been completely done. I really hope they're doing something about it, I'm pretty sure Sony realizes how many potential sales they could have with re-releases of some PS2 classics on the PSN store.
Well they did it with Tekken 5
How did they get God of War 1 and 2 to work?
Also I was under the impression that the 80GB models used emulation software
God of War 1 and 2 are running on a God of War 2 engine that was written specifically for the PS3 (originally GOW2 could have appeared on PS3 instead of PS2, back in early 2007 there was talk of GOW2 running on PS3 hardware at 720p). I'm not sure about Tekken 5, I'd put my money on Namco building a Tekken game engine for the PS3 and simply shuffling the game assets across for a quick port.
Unfortunately in general, it's not as simple as retooling the software. You have to build the game and graphics engine specifically for the PS3. Sure, the graphics and audio and most, if not all the game logic are already available, but you still have to write software.
PS1 games are run in an emulator, to the game it seems as if it's running on a real PS1. On the 60GB and 80GB systems with BC, PS2 games run inside an emulation but the game believes it's running on a PS2. Of course the PS3 models with PS2 compatibility included some of the original PS2 hardware to pull off this trick.
If the GPU from the PS2 could be emulated, then software emulation for PS2 games would be available for all PS3 models. However, that has so far proved to be unattainable.
To bring a PS2 game across you'd have to go back to the original source code, but you couldn't simply recompile it, you'd have to modify it for all the new PS3 specific elements such as trophies and XMB support. It would have to be aware of the additional hardware so it could properly handle controllers and networking. The graphics engine would have to be rewritten since most of the graphics engines for PS2 games were heavily optimized for the GS chip. By the time you're done, and you spend some time updating the graphics to be HD quality, you might as well have written a new game. This is why the goal of emulation is so important, it would allow PS2 games to run unmodified on the PS3. If it was possible, then with the addition of a runtime environment to manage the virtual PS2 hardware and make the game installed on the HDD look like it's running from DVD, downloadable PS2 games on PSN would work. But the key thing is to crack the emulation part first.
The original 20/60GB launch models have complete PS2 hardware, both the Emotion Engine (CPU) and Graphics Synthesizer (GPU) on the PS3 motherboard. PS2 games run on PS2 hardware inside the PS3. The 80GB systems with backwards compatibility use a different motherboard that only has a version of the Graphics Synthesizer on it, the Emotion Engine is emulated in software. So PS2 games run partly in software emulation and partly on PS2 hardware.
Later revisions of the PS3 did away with this facility along with a few other extras to cut costs. If you have an old PS3 Phat system with four USB ports, then your system has some form of PS2 compatibility. If your PS3 phat only has two USB ports or you have a PS3 slim, you do not have PS2 compatibility, and unless a complete software emulator is created, you never will.
Last edited by TheHighlander on 2/2/2010 4:10:15 PM
An interesting link showing that PS2 emulation on the PS3 is a dream that will not die…
http://gamer.blorge.com/2010/02/03/sony-teases-ps2-backwards-compatibility-on-ps3-again/
I know a lot of people have the hate for capcom these days, see: Crapcom. But I truly hope this move nets them some good cash so they can start to work on new IPs and make a comeback. Or give me an awesome return to Dino Crisis. I heard 3 was crap, but so was RE3. Maybe they can have a Dino Crisis 4 that rocks out.
Yeah there are those who've clearly expressed their hate towards Capcom. I've always been a fan of theirs though.
Would be awesome if they announce work on new IP's, would love to see those guys have a comeback.
Last edited by to_far_apart on 2/2/2010 12:24:03 PM
Oh man Dino Crisis on ps3 would be insane.
Ah yes the good ol' Capcom days. Back before such gems as Bionic Commando and Dark Void soiled their reputation.
OMG RIVAL SCHOOLS!!!
That would get me to turn my PSP back on.
-Arvis
Rival Schools Was 1 Of My Favorite Games On The Ps1! I Loved It And It Would Be A Day 1 Download From Me! I Hope They Add Online If They Did Decide To Bring It To The PSN…
Ben you hit the a instead of the s – ian't 2nd paragraph
I wish they could bring back Super Ghouls N Ghosts from SNES that game ruled! I think they had one for psp but I don't really want a psp even though i'd love to play Peacewalker it just isn't worth $50 less than another ps3 to me.
Dino Crisis 2 would be awesome
But the one I'm waiting for is Rival Schools!
where do i begin?
o heck how about you save us both the trouble and get a emulator onto the ps3 so i can play any game i want.
i seriously miss playing mario as much as i hate to admit it im really starting to miss my old gameboy.
Breath of Fresh Air III – Fire..
Yeah I know I'm funny, what can I do? Jeez.
BoFIV please. I've already got III on my PSP and it's apparently out on the EU PSN already, so…
ohhhhhh man BOF 3 was shplindifferic. Dragon genes were awesome. I would love to see a new one with like 20 or 30 different genes.