The holiday season is always critical for video game manufacturers and most agreed that Sony had the definite edge heading into Black Friday. Well, so far, things are going quite well.
In looking around the Internet, one can see the PlayStation 3 is a hot-ticket item for holiday shoppers. As compiled by PS3Center , best seller lists for major retailers prove that consumers have responded to the top-notch games and those "It Only Does Everything" commercials. The 120GB PS3 bundle Amazon had, featuring inFamous and Killzone 2 , used to be higher than #10 on Amazon's top seller list but it has dropped because they're now sold out . There are two Xbox 360 games in the top 10 for Amazon – Halo 3: ODST and Left 4 Dead 2 – but the console barely cracks the top 100, which signifies that the games aren't system sellers; those who already have the 360 are buying those two titles, that's all. As for PS3 games, even last year's Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is in the top 25, which is more proof that we're seeing a lot of new PS3 owners; what would you buy if you just got the console? Uncharted 2: Among Thieves will take a prominent place on that list throughout the holiday season, too.
Oh, and the PS3 is also the more popular selection at both Best Buy and Wal-Mart right now (even though the Wii still has a slight lead at the latter retailer), while the 360 isn't really even close. So thus far, Sony should be pleased with the PS3's showing…now, it just needs to carry this popularity on through December.
start the challange fast
According to some website and analysis, the 360 either outselling the Ps3 or will outsell the ps3 3:1, can someone show me whether they're wrong or right?
That's a retarded claim. No, it's not right so far and I can pretty much guarantee it won't be, either.
Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 11/28/2009 11:02:45 AM
Has the 360 outsold the PS3 on any week after the release of PS3 Slim?
THAT, is an absurd ratio. What has the 360 got to spur that kind of frenzy, Forza? I think not! Wishful thinking of Xbots maybe?
It may have. But I know for a fact the 360 isn't outselling the PS3 at a 3:1 ratio right now. The PS3 is selling better overall in the past few months, so of course that can't be true.
i am working at best buy right now in the gaming section. during my 10 hour shift, the 360 section had almost noone there while the wii and ps3 section had the most people. when they ask me what game i could suggest, the first thing that comes to mind was uncharted 2. The ps3 bundle we had sold out by the time i got there, the one with ratchet and clank acit and littlebigplanet was already sold out. even dragon age origins for ps3 was sold out while there was still a lot for 360. the only thing that we sold out on 360 is left for dead 2. I guess you can blame the crap 360 sales because the bundle sucks. sure it comes with 6 games but 6 crap games.
The Xbox did outsell the PS3 after the slim came out, that was only because Walmart have been giving out $100 gift cards for a $199 Xbox, that is only in US. Which is pretty pathetic. The PS2 didn't break $100 until it's 9th year. The Xbox with more advance technology broke that in it's 4th year.
Snaaake,
Wasn't that 3:1 analysis actually a claim by a Microsoft person who works on the Xbox project?
@ WAGE Slaves
"What has the 360 got to spur that kind of frenzy, Forza?" No, not Forza since I've already seen Forza 3 on sale for $29.99 and this was a while before Black Friday.
No, what 360 has to spur that frenzy is garbage hardware. Doesn't make sense you say? Well everybody I know, and myself were Xbox ONLY players and went through multiple consoles, (I never owned a 360 that lasted longer than a year) so we all bought "backup" consoles, which, means more sales for MS.
Everybody I know, and myself are now PS3 (still using same PS3) ONLY owners, we've dumped off the 360 (over 1 year now) and couldn't be happier.
Somebody please explain why I keep hearing Xbox has all the best exclusives and PS3 has barelly any. I'm confused, as far as I'm aware of, the only exclusive Xbox has is Halo 3 and that's going to PC just like EVERY other Xbox "exclusive" game. So, really they aren't exclusives because they're on PC, correct?
1 last part, recently MS banned close to 1 million Live members' XBOX but not gamertags. So, you guy another console and there you go. I also read MS "TIMED" this banning to spur more sales. Plus, once you make a gamertag, it's there forever, MS will NOT delete it. We all cancled our Live memberships and the indian dudes on the phone all said the same thing, "we cannot delete gamertags" I call BS, MS just doesn't want to because it will bring down thier total live subscriber numbers. My opinion anyways
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@Mysterio
Wow! That is crazy info!!! That is shady but sinisterly ingenious of M$ if what you say is correct. I'm glad you guys swapped cuz no one deserves to be used as a pawn like that. Sony f'ed up with the PSP making it hackable and you don't see them trying to fry you for it (even though it'd be a pretty tough endeavor). AND you might be on to something with the Gamertag count comment. I guess you gotta think like a crook (for a second) to see through it…
@highlander,
Yeah, i think that 3:1 comment came from someone from microsoft. The only way they'll get that now after seeing black friday/holiday is if they had a master switches that would red ring a percentage of consoles either forcing owners either to drop it or buy new ones. The conspiracy begins.
Excellent point Mysterio, I wish I'd thought of that connection between the recent banning of 1 million Xboxes and a possible surge in sales. That's a good catch there.
@Johnld
Methinks Mysterio nailed that conspiracy theory when he mentioned the recent banning of 1 million Xboxes.
I must admit I thought that it was the gamertag and console, not just the console. Interesting.
i think the 3:1 ratio was for in england, but even there i think that number is wishful thinking
I saw that web article too. It was clearly fabricated. They didn't have any evidence to back it up. And everyone in the comments section suggested they were paid off by Microsoft or the article was written by a Microsoft employee or Xbot.
This is why I trust PSXextreme. They use evidence to find which console or game is most popular in retailers or downloads. Little to nothing is fabricated without letting the reader know if its clearly speculation on the writer's part.
Halo ODST is one example. Even though the PS3 is showing high popularity right now, Ben et al all agreed that Halo was even more popular and rightfully so. While I personally do not like Halo games, I still respect its popularity and its excellent use of Live services. It's the main reason I got a 360 and Halo 3 just so I could enjoy some friendly competition with friends.
Anyway, the website claiming 360 outselling PS3 3:1 is taken from 1 retailer, 1 RETAILER!!! Yeah, that's really accurate!!!
http://360.kombo.com/article.php?artid=17845
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1836/360-outselling-ps3-31
Amazon is the most popular online purchase site, so I go by what is popular with them. And if they say the PS3 is more popular, then PS3 is popular. Other websites claiming otherwise are either Microsoft fanboys scared of accepting the truth, or are actual MS employees writing it to try and defend their slowly dying console.
If the EB sales are anything to go by, MS realises their console offers nothing compared to PS3 and so are offering 5 free games with their console to try and beat the competition. To the trained eye, this comes across as desperate, and the 5 games aren't even that good compared to the 2 free games (or tech) offered by Sony.
Xbox 360 Elite + Lego Batman + Pure + Bioshock + Mass Effect + Splinter Cell Double Agent = $449
PS3 120 GB + NFS Underground + Battlefield Bad Company = $499
PS3 250GB + Play TV / Assassin's Creed 2 / Uncharted 2 + NFS Underground + Battlefield Bad Company = $599
Remember this is Australia prices. Now, given, the 120 gig PS3 deal isn't the best, Mass Effect and Bioshock are clearly effective system sellers, but Uncharted 2, Assassin's Creed 2 or Play TV are enough to sell the 250 gig PS3, and those are literally flying out the door this christmas.
I prefer your Black Friday PS3 deals. Our ones here for christmas aren't great right now, but they will be changing every few weeks leading to christmas. Will let you know if the PS3 deals improve at all.
@ Mysterio,
"Somebody please explain why I keep hearing Xbox has all the best exclusives and PS3 has barelly any."
That is because the majority of Xbots (360-only gamers) have been brainwashed to believe that and they continue to spread that fallacy.
Let me relate a story I posted in another news article here:
I was browsing the games in a GameStop a few Saturdays ago when I overheard him talking to another customer. Actually, I heard the customer first, repeating so "You're saying Msft over Sony." The kid said something back that I can't recall, and I tried to ignore him (as I normally do). But, then he said something I couldn't ignore; and I felt like I was back in 2006 again.
"When Sony gets any good exclusive games, then I'll give them a chance. And I own a PS3."
Like, every Xbot who is an Xbot doesn't claim he owns a PS3 so they don't look like an Xbot!
Well, I was stunned; I couldn't ignore him anymore, so I interjected "Are you kidding me?"
To which he replied, "When Sony gets 10 good exclusive PS3 games I'll take them seriously."
Well, after that it wasn't pretty as I told him to stop talking out of his ass and I and another customer put him in his place, quickly listing the Ps3's good, exclusive franchises.
By the way, when I mentioned Gran Turismo, he replied, "Isn't Gran Turismo coming to the 360?"
You can't make this stupidity up. Seriously, where do they get this crap?
actually i think its the other way around… ps3 is outselling the 360 3:1… i work at walmart and on friday alone the ps3 sold about 80 systems while the 360 barely sold 20… I think this christmas belongs to sony
yep..I think people that wanted a 360 already have one in these days.
now Ps3 standard model finally its 299.99 with awesome bundles,the only saving grace 360 has is that the multiplats are usually better in that console.
i still want to know, out of all the 360 "shipped" numbers, how much of those are actually sold systems and not repaired.
What is a shame is the fact that Walmart's sales are not caculated in to NPD, or any sales totals that I am aware of.
People go to Walmart and shop, so how can any of these monthly sales reports be taken seriously?
True that they're only f-ing EVERYWHERE!!!
Except NYC
THANK GOD!
walmarts are also the worst place to shop
if you want games or systems every one heads to bestbuy
only the super cheep head to walmart to get it
as they were going there to puck up some nomane crap anyway
Wal-Mart's sales are counted in Sony's sales figures which will surely show a nice Holiday boost in sales….
Can only be good news…
Q!
"i am home"
Sounds good
when i went ot GS, and walmart to check out the PS3 bundles they were sold out… so they are selling fast. and will dominate over Xbox this holiday season
Hope Sony doesn't run out of ps3's to sell, with the way next year's games are stacking up the future of the Xbox looks bleak. Do they even have any exclusves BESIDES Halo 4 coming out next year?
SOMETHING YOU'LL NEVER HEAR
"We could only do this game on Xbox because it's so awesome"
when i left best buy black friday, there were still a lot of ps3s, and even more 360s.
Seems like M$ put all their eggs in the Natal basket. I think after a game or two people will realize you just cant supplement a controller.
there going after the wii group with natal
thing is MS let go almost all there game makeing groups
they have fable 3 and ami awake as the only 1st party games
there other big games are spliter cell and ME2
and there a rumers that they may hit PS3
SOMETHING YOU'LL NEVER HEAR
"We could only do this game on Xbox because it's so awesome"
That's Valve's favorite slogan.
I'm not that surprised…after all, it only does everything…
Brought my PS3 Slim to the shop I bought it. Yesterday evening showed the Red screen of death! And this after just 3 months! First PS3 fat didn't read any disks after 1,5 year. I'm a big and loyal fan of all Sony consoles but this is just absurd. Hope it will be fixed before Christmas.
if you think that sucks, ask someone who is already on their 13th xbox.
i am calling troll on this one there is no "Red screen of death"
My, my what a Truly Remarkable, Outstandingly Literate, Loquacious message that was….
well it's a good thing that it comes with that one year warranty. And it only took them about a week to fix my ps3 when I sent it in. (P.S. don't leave your ps3 on for 4 months in a row.)
Its pretty funny how much people dont know about the ps3. When i was talking to them they didnt know about netflix, ps3 web browser, easy hard drive replacement, and the psn store. would've thought they would do some sort of research if they're buying something 299 bucks. I also got asked what a good game was to give to their 14 year old grand daughter. My mind just went blank trying to think of a game. hell i can tell them what game a guy would want easy but game for girls. luckily i passed by littlebigplanet and suggested that. i could've said uncharted 2 but i dont really know what 14 year olds are into. Most of the 14 year olds i encounter are online with mw2 trying to act tough.
Kinda notice how the ratings systems doesnt work at all during the holidays. this kid was trying to have his mom buy him the modern warfare 2 360bundle and i know he wasnt close to 18. I guess the phrase "thats all i want for christmas" just beats the rating system.
Last edited by johnld on 11/28/2009 12:57:17 PM
yeah, my parents were cool that way too 🙂
i have no problem with it at all. the only thing is that if you are going to ignore the ratings system, then dont even talk about this "games are too violent" type of controversies.
My little sister loves ratchet and clank, so if you are ever in the spotlight again suggest that.
I know what you mean, my friend didnt even know that the PS3 had wireless controllers.
that came up too. the guy was asking if we had wired controllers because he didnt want the standard wireless controllers because he didnt want to keep buyin batteries. In a tone that tells him you're a moron, i told him if he wanted to have a wired controller to just use a recharge cable to make it wired.
I talked my friend into getting one, but the second I went to Amazon to confirm there were the KZ2 and inFamous bundles online they were already sold out. He's still getting a PS3 though.
Sony will devastate MS this year.
if you look at the ps3 bundles everywhere vs. 360 bundles, no matter how many games you get with 360, its like microsoft gave up until they release a new 360 with natal. and even the people i know that want to try natal and that milo thing just want to test out how much they can mess with the game.
Point him to the PS3 bundle, at Wal-Mart? (I think). Its the one with Infamous, Batman:AA, and the Dark Knight on Blu-Ray.
Ah damn, that product disappeared off the website, I suppose all stores are sold out.
Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 11/28/2009 4:07:26 PM
theres no comparison. Sony has amazing bundles. Arkham asylum + dark knight blu-ray, god of war collection, infamous + killzone 2, little big planet + ice age blu ray, plus any unique bundles store can think of.
Apart from the MW2 pack, MS only has indiana jones lego and Madasgar. On DVD.
You really know how to make friends and influence people don't you?