See that dude in the picture? Despite the fact that I have a lot more hair and I'm probably younger, that's me every time I read another ridiculous, "if Sony doesn't drop the price of the PS3, it's over" article. Really. I'm bored .
The mainstream media is even getting into the game (forgive the bad pun), as everyone is screaming at Sony to drop the price or "sacrifice the console war" here and now. Oh yes, that makes a gigantic amount of sense. Don't ever give the media – it pains me that I'm part of it right now – too much credit, whatever you do. Don't expect them to view the bigger picture, as Sony has been doing ever since they entered the video game console market almost 15 years ago. Right, with around 28 million Xbox 360s and around 24 million PS3s out there (those numbers are only estimates based on recent findings), the PS3 is just getting "blown out of the water," especially after launching over a year later and always having the more expensive system. The PlayStation Network, which is still free, continues to make giant strides and in my humble opinion, is currently outstripping Xbox Live . Read that article in full, by the way, before making any rash assumptions.
Sony says there are 25 million active PSN accounts, and just about everyone agrees that Sony's exclusive lineup for the PS3 easily trumps that of the 360. Feel free to look up the titles on tap for the upcoming 12 months; I'm tired of doing it, if you want to know the honest-to-goodness truth. It's so painfully obvious, I'm not going to bother anymore; if you can't figure it out for yourself, you have your own biases to deal with. But the point is this: I believe most will agree that the PS3 really didn't come into its own until 2008, and let's not forget what the sales numbers and software lineup was like in 2007. Therefore, in about two years time, with the most expensive console on the market, even in a freakin' recession , the PS3 has somehow managed to – shock of shocks – not die. In fact, it has only managed to close the gap, which it will likely continue to do. Of course, it will remain behind the 360 for longer if Sony doesn't drop the price, but what are we really talking about here? A difference of 4-5 million units? That's the catalyst for this sudden outpouring of anxiety-ridden pleas?
You know, it's almost as if the Sony haters found something negative to latch onto and are once again trying to make something out of nothing. They had plenty of ammunition for the first year of the PS3's existence – let's face up to facts – but as each drawback began to disappear and people started to have difficulty locating bullets, the naysayers ran and hid. They never go far, though. No, they hide behind a tree, peeking around the corner and waiting for another piece of rubbish to float down the river. Then they'll jump on it and gleefully proclaim it came from Sony, and "something must be done." Right. Fine. You keep doing that. Sony will drop the price of the PS3 at some point, so just stop worrying, and in the meantime, let's actually examine the current situation for what it is . Hell, at this point, I think people might actually pay the old $600 just for a shot at playing God of War III .
…look closely at that last sentence. It's only one example of many I could make, and so could you.
I've never yelled, I've always asked quite politely.
I would have to agree. The only reason I want it to go down in price is so that more people can enjoy it and for the ps3 to have a better install base.
i like that last sentence 🙂
well it might help them sell more but i really want a ps3 does anyone know where i could buy one for cheap besides ebay like one for around $150 to $250
craigslist?
I like that best buy deal, personally.
…in the midst of a recession…most expensive console on the market…24 million sold!!
Nuff said.
I don't care, I have one….But the fact that it's actually a better deal than the 360, but still people keep talking about it, plus the net is free. If you have had a 360 for four years and you have been paying for online you have spent another 200$. But I don't care, the thing that makes me mad is that because it isn't selling as well in "America", which is where all the news media is mostly based out of, is why they are carrying on about this. WE live in a global world people, it's doing fine.
Although I completely agree with your article Ben , according to Microsoft's E3 announcement , the 360 is at 30 million .
Last edited by Sir Shak on 6/29/2009 10:36:37 PM
true. Although I think that that figure is number of systems shipped. Plus…the re-buys for the Red Rings…that number's inflated.
I agree with King James about the numbers being inflated due to re-sales/re-purchasing of Xbox360 Consoles.
If you think about it, a lot of gamers went out and got the latest $200 model and just moved their hard drives over because of the RROD issue.
Those are the re-sales/re-purchasing that I am referring to.
Also, what if when people went to replace (years ago mind you) their broken RROD Xbox and the stored processed the replacement as a sale (Return the broken and then Sell the replacement). Another way that numbers could be wrong of M$.
Just consider these two valid points as options.
If it was not for the RROD fiasco, I would not be arguing the numbers claimed by M$.
It's difficult to go by numbers because Microsoft tries to act like the global market is a reflection of the US market, which it clearly is not. So even though the global sales numbers may be relatively close, the gap in the US market is very large. The majority of the media and vocal proponents of the "Sony must cut" line are US based. They are bringing their narrow focus to a global audience. Because they are loud and numerous, their constant bleating starts to create an impression that there is universal clamoring for a price cut or that the PS3 is selling badly. Classic FUD, but sadly, successful FUD.
All the tech in the ps3 was worth the $600 you got a ps1, a bluray player, a massive media player, an amazing web browser that has flash support, a ps2, free access to the playstation network, a mountain or ports and slots for other tech, and oh yeah let me not forget to mention A PS3!!! Tell me buying all the tech to perform the above mentioned functions wouldn't cost you an arm and a leg?
the browser is far from amazing… very buggy, and could be better… and there's no longer a ps2… but other than that, i agree
You're preachin' to the choir my man. Having a playstation console means knowing your system is backed by a plethora of studios just clamoring to bring you the next great experience instead of kiping them off others. The foresight has always been there with Sony, and while the jump from the starting line was slow, in the end all I care about is having the best games. As I look around that's what I see surrounding this particular playstation iteration.
Fark those people, the price will come down when it comes down.
Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 6/29/2009 10:50:51 PM
agreed…
if it cuts to what they want it at, they're going to want it lower in 1/2-1 year, because the 360 will lower in response… then what?? ps3 lower Or else Activision threatens to jump ship again?? sony's losing money as is… and also the ps3 has roughly 7 years left, and a long time for price drops… if one comes too soon, there won't be another for a while… and what I have mentioned above becomes relevant… ppl will whine, and if sony delivers, losses will rise even more, and if they dont, childish developers will abandon the console, and Sony will recieve more Flak…
IS THERE NO END?????!!!!
(BTW, is Activision Nuts??? losing 24 million potential buyers of their products for the sake of a price cut??? wtf!! if every ps3 owner buys guitar hero:WT, GH:SH, Cod4, CodWaw, and MW2, at roughly $70 a pop, they lose a grand sum of roughly $8,400,000,000 DOLLARS!!!! that's Eight billion Four Hundred Million DOLLARS! you gotta be nuts 2 refuse that!!! Microsoft can't pay them anywhere near that ammount to become a 2nd party dev.)
hold on a second, what was that about activision? are they going to stop making ps3 games or something, or did someone high up say something retarded.
activision in more or less words threatened sony this week that they "WOULD discontinue support for the ps3 unless a price cut surfaces"
which is just dumb IMO
Alright so does a company want to make a profit…or sell the most of its product generating nothing but losses?
I'll let you think…
Yeah mordakai my bad but I was talking about the original $600 model and im a very lackluster techy my pc standards are low so that browser saved me many a boring night. (^-^) thanks for the reply!
no prob man, sorry 4 being so critical…
at least it has a browser >.> I used it more than my pc one before *cough* my ps3 stopped working on me 🙁
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@Zemus101
*cough* Hulu? *cough*
*cough* Canadian *cough* lol umm… none of that stuff works in Canada
Sony will keep it's place in history as it 3-peats once again too(yes, I DO predict that by the end of it's life-cycle, the PS3 will have even surpassed the Wii in sales too).
Every generation of PS's has inched away from the starting line as slow moving tortoise.
But……with each generation of PS's, that mighty tortoise has done a fine job at…
"parting of all their hare(s) off to the side" every time.
Last edited by BikerSaint on 6/29/2009 11:12:58 PM
The PS3 may be low in the sales chart but we already know that's by price alone. The thing im afraid of is the PS3 being overshadowed when the new nintendo whatever and xbox whatchamahoozit are released in a few years because they are improving in order to be more like the PS3 (obviously) does that spell doom in the future for the PS3? Will it be able to update and still beat two more new consoles before its ten year lifespan is up??? Please someone calm my shaking hand lol
somehow I get the feeling Sony has thought of that too.
Don't worry MS are also looking at a 10 year lifespan for their 360. Their only upgrading to Natal and maybe standard 120GB whiles ps3 might be upgrading to standard 160GB,motion control and probably ps3 slim. Trust me Nintendo are still enjoying the success of the Wii that releasing a new console wouldn't make sense. Since SNES this is first time they've had a successful console.
Do you honestly think M$ truly believes that the 360 will have a successful 10-year lifespan?
They didn't say anything about a decade lifespan until Sony said it. They're copycats and always has been.
Well when I look back at the gameboy days when nintendo released a new one every year, it makes me think that Wii could just start following that trend any day now.
I mean seriously look at these release dates
1995: color cased gameboys, 1996: Gameboy pocket, 1997: Gameboy Lite, 1998: Gameboy Color, and after that they started making new models every 2 to 3 years.
So, they have done it before and could easily do it again with wii products.
Ah, still have my 2007 ps3. What a beauty!
Never had to send it back for repairs *cough*unlike a certain console out there*cough*
Have never had to pay monthly/yearly bills for online.
And have enjoyed the crap out of it!
I really don't care 'bout the new generation of gamers. They love missing out on the good stuff 😀
Not only have they missed MGS4, but they're missing and going to keep missing on the best exclusives of this gen.
I know it pains xbots but instead of whining, why not sell your 360 which is gonna die anyway and get a ps3. If you're that strapped for cash, and all you can do is whine.
You forgot to knock on wood dude >< You'll see that little yellow light pop up eventually …maybe 😛 Coulda been just a fluke for me though, I'm lucky like that 😛
SCREW IT!!! Lets make this a battle royal! Get three of the strongest men/women in the world in a ring and have them all grab a different console then throw all three at eachother! And the one that isnt shattered by the PS3 gets to be crushed….by the PS3 LOL I think that'll settle things (^-^)
i got my 600$ worth. although 2 month after i bought it, it went down.
lol sumthing else tht proves ps3 is structually better, my friend moved his 360 with a game in it(it was off)and in doing so broke the laser so badly he cant do anything but play on live…all the while i drop my ps3 3ft with a game playing in it and it was fine(was a little over-anxious playing KZ2,pulled on the controller while it was plugged in)
i would probably have a heart attack if that happened to my ps3
even if it was still ok afterwards 😛
Gotta stick to the cordless man.
Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 6/30/2009 12:44:33 AM
He had to charge his controller somehow.
@Newchef,
Damn, you got lucky with that drop.
I have my PS3 up high on a shelf, and since the 60 Giggers run hotter & YLOD more often than any of the other models, I've got it sitting up on top of 3" high blocks at each corner, just so it can surround itself with all the extra air it ever wants to suck in.
BTW, I sometimes get a little zealous while playing too, so I alwys worried that I might yank on the controller too hard while it was reharging, & cause it drop about 6 feet down, so I wound up buying a "Nyko Dualcharger AC".
It's a charger with dual USB slots(with two 4Ft cords) which plugs right into my home's electrical outlet instead of the PS3's USB port. And when not in use, the electrical plug folds out of the way, right into the unit itself.
During a blu ray next time.
Mine rolled down four stairs. (then it got up and asked what was for dinner) It was fine.
They will do it when there ready i think it will come along with a bundle maybe..GT5 or it would appen b4 the release of GT5 few days before it.
Someone had to say it Ben
I predict by the end of next year, the Ps3 will (at the very least) catch up with the 360 in terms of no. of consoles sales even WITHOUT the price drop. Yes GOW 3 and Uncharted 2 looks that good. But in all honesty, It will most likely drop by the end of this year or at the very latest before GOW3 and when that happens, WELL its just game over for MS
I don't care about numbers and sales but let's face it, that drives the industry. Sony is big company with plenty of smart cookies and they will drop the price when it's right. I wish Sony the best so it continues to deliver quality and innovative games in the future…
My two systems get daily usage and have been since the end of '07. I have definitely gotten my money's worth and they still keep running strong.
I've never regretted spending 500 bucks on my ps3. I'm not even that mad that Its broken and have to send it back. Disappointed, yea. The ps3 is worth every penny.
Damn Straight, When you compair the PS3 to the the 360, you can see why theres a price difference.
the term you get what you pay for truly is one of the most true slogans you can ever come across…
299 for a box that will RROD in a year…
399 for a box that will need way less service than the one above..
299 for a DVD player (plus games)
399 for a Bluray Player, DVD player, Game player, PS1…
299 Plus 50/yr for online
399 for free online
the list goes on, and still the slogan remains relevant…
Its funny how people say PS3 needs a price drop. I think the 360 was had the same amount of consoles sold as the PS3 in its 2 and a half year mark.
Plus when you look at the PS3 features you get for the price people should be yelling for a 360 price drop as well. If PS3 price drops a 80gb and Pro will be about the same price (if sony dropped it $100). Wouldn't the 360 be overpriced since you would be paying the same price for a system that doesn't have BluRay, Wifi, and 20gb less room? Just wondering.
Also Why would Sony dropped the price of the PS3 in summer when consoles don't move like hotcakes around this time and the hot games don't hit for a a couple of months?
Dear Porsche,
Please price your cars the same as a Yugo.
Thanks!
-poor people who really want things we can't afford
I already got my price cut from Sony.I bought mine directly from Sony style when they had the 100.00 off a purchase of 400.00 or more, so I got my 40gig PS3 for 299.00 and free shipping.
Stupid people only see price and not what they're getting for the money…those are the people complaining about the PS3 price.
Xbox 360 Pro 60GB + WiFi adapter = US$380 (+ ~US$50/yr for Xbox Live)
PS3 80GB (w/ Blu-ray & WiFi built-in (& gigabit Ethernet vs 100 megabit on 360) + FREE PSN = US$400
Granted, WiFi isn't NEEDED by many, but still a LOT of 360 owners who want it are having to fork out another US$80. System-wise, I don't see why anyone has their panties in a wad over price. Even w/o the WiFi adapter on the 360, after 2 years of paying for XBL, you've spent the same. And if you say, "But the base model 360 is only $200!", how many who bought just that model DIDN'T end up forking out another US$80-100+ for a HD for it later on?
The lame-o Activision CEO was talking about attach rates, though, which IS a valid discussion to still have.