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Where Did All The PS3 Hate Go?

Let me see if I can break this down for all of you haters, currently cowering in a corner and hoping to God nobody calls you to task for your doom-and-gloom claims from the early days of the PlayStation 3.

I've been gaming for over 25 years and I have covered the progress of Sony's latest console for PSX Extreme since the very first day. You can go all the way back to November of 2006 to view my Launch Report Card for the system. Now, for most all of 2007, I scoured the Internet for news every day – as I still do – and I read all the regular reports along with the nasty editorials that inundated every gaming website around. Of course, I'm not about to say that certain editorials weren't without merit; the PS3 did indeed have a slow start and no matter what kind of fan you are, you can't deny that things weren't looking good. However, as I did agree with some of the negative viewpoints, the sheer number of "LAMLAMLAM, the PS3 is gonna die!" articles was downright disgusting, and furthermore, even legitimate websites began running pieces asking if there was any way to "save" the beleaguered console. Apparently, I was the only one on earth who simply asked, "given Sony's history and the progression of past consoles, shouldn't we have just a little more faith than this?"

And now, it's 2009 and the PS3 seems to have all the momentum in the world. We have already been blown away by certain exclusives, including MGS4 and Killzone 2 , and many more are on the way. Few will argue that PS3's exclusive lineup, which features names like Uncharted , God of War , and Gran Turismo (just to name a few), currently outstrips that of the competition. The PlayStation Network has come a long way…a long, long way; on the first few days of the Store's existence, it barely featured a few pieces of content. Now, there are thousands. Even little downloadable titles have wowed us ( flOw , Flower , etc.), and oh yes, let's not forget about the video download service and the fact that it remains free . PlayStation Home is here, and like a microcosm of the entire PS3 existence, it shows a ton of potential that hasn't quite been realized yet. In short, the software is here and more is coming, there's every indication that the PS3 will have the best exclusives in 2009 and even 2010, the Network is both reliable and increasingly popular, the machine is super reliable, and all that's left is a price drop.

And where have all the haters gone? Well, they've gone where they always go when they issue ill-advised, shrieking rantings and ravings, only to find out at a later date they've been proven wrong. I'm not here to tell everyone that the PS3 will eclipse the Wii, but it seems almost inevitable that it will soon reach the 360 threshold and may indeed surpass it before too long. It's all about the games, and the PS3 seems to have the edge. If Sony comes with the price drop, you can certainly expect to see some major sales spikes around the world; look what it has already done in Japan! So come on, haters. Stand up and take your punishment like a man. Concede. Do what a grown-up does when faced with the inevitable realization that his knee-jerk reaction was ill-founded and ill-advised. But you won't do that, will you? You'll remain in hiding, because it's far too painful to let the light hit your still-closed eyes…I feel for ya. It's tough to admit. But the truth is, the PS3 is here to stay and not only is it proving to be mighty stiff competition, it also seems to be in the driver's seat at the present time.

For the naysayers, the truth hurts.

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MirrorSoul
MirrorSoul
14 years ago

Agreed

N a S a H
N a S a H
14 years ago

Well that post on the forums of VGC says otherwise :S

Alienange
Alienange
14 years ago

Oh snap! This is why I come here Ben. You're the freakin' man! Oh, and to answer your question, yes some are hiding in 2007 while most are in their basements watching a blu ray and fondling their sixaxis controllers.

Zemus101
Zemus101
14 years ago

Driver's seat woo! Great article Ben! Sorry I don't have more to contribute to this post, you just said everything that I've been thinking for a long time. I couldn't have put it into better words myself, not by a long shot. It's nice to see PS3 finally doing something great.

Ed_Wayne
Ed_Wayne
14 years ago

Damn straight, Ben. I've believed in Sony from the very beginning.

Hexen
Hexen
14 years ago

The haters didn't go away, they are madder and more aggressive than ever.Also as impressive as the 09 line up is I am more impress with the 2010's lineup.I am confident that PSN will surpass Live this year.I just feel that at E3 Sony will pull out something like a XMB2 with firmware 3.00, but it's probably wishful thinking of my part.BTW Excellent article Ben.


Last edited by Hexen on 5/5/2009 10:43:57 PM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
14 years ago

Learned one thing about 'haters' I have. Frustrated bullies they are. Many life lessons I have acquired. Bullies the truth cannot stand, about themselves, about their minds, the truth they loathe, their reflection they hate. Force them their truth to face, scurry away they will. Biding their time. Angrier they get, more hateful. Poisonous their minds become, alone they are. Stand them no one can, except themselves. Alone, the anger grows, the hatred burns, bitter they become, dangerous they are.

I'd originally written a reply and realized it sounded like Yoda, so I decided to really ham it up….

twenty8nine
twenty8nine
14 years ago

XMB2? That is a bit of a scary thought. Don't tinker with something that works pretty well as it is.

Hexen
Hexen
14 years ago

I personally love the XMB and wouldn't change but there people out there who says it's too simple and boring.I would like a new XMB just to attract some of those jerks to the PS3.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
14 years ago

Long live the Yoda-esque replies. 🙂


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 5/6/2009 12:56:08 AM

Powershifter
Powershifter
14 years ago

@ Highlander

lol so you saw my "yoda" reply to one of your other posts in a different article – nice one!

oh, and by the way, Highlander used to be one of my favorite shows back in the day.

Odrec
Odrec
14 years ago

It is like they say now. Mostly, only non-PS3 owners have the urge now to own both consoles. I wonder why 🙂

556pineapple
556pineapple
14 years ago

Likewise, I once longed to own both consoles, yet no longer want to own an Xbox 360. I'd rather not buy 5 of them before one finally works.

MadKatBebop
MadKatBebop
14 years ago

Kick ass PS3!

Oyashiro
Oyashiro
14 years ago

Its good to be a PS3 owner! 🙂

Sir Shak
Sir Shak
14 years ago

Ben, I see that you like to say " LAMLAMLAM" a lot . 🙂

On topic , the hate has shifted to every PS3 exclusive that gathers some attention . Apparently , sales are the biggest fetish for these haters now .

As for the so called legitimate websites that wrote such articles , they have either shut up or are directing their rage towards PS3 games in the form of absurd reviews . I just read a review from a site called gamestyle , which was written yesterday with the specific purpose of bringing Killzone 2's score down a point on metacritic . If you don't believe me , go to metacritic and look at the KZ2 page , it's at the bottom of the lot . More than the number , the absolute bullshit this guy is spewing in the name of journalism is beyond pathetic .


Last edited by Sir Shak on 5/5/2009 10:59:58 PM

Hexen
Hexen
14 years ago

Checked it out shak and wow!!what a super horrible fanboy.what a ridiculous review that made absolutely no sense to any one but him.It's sickening but I know PS3 owners will have the last laugh.:D

LegendaryWolfeh
LegendaryWolfeh
14 years ago

That was indeed god-awful, i like how he related everything to something about the 360 😐

sticklife
sticklife
14 years ago

geez, i went to the site and looked around for a while and i don't think they like ps3 too much. i looked up some reviews and they gave fallout 3 for the 360 a 9 out of ten. thats not bad but i also looked up the ps3 review and they gave that one a 7. now i live with two people who play it on 360 and i have it on ps3 they seem about the same to me.

fatelementality
fatelementality
14 years ago

It's funny. Both of my roommates still say that they hate it, but also say that they want to get one. What??!! They can't even admit it! I just laugh. I've owned both a PS3 and 360 since their launch, (not rich, just a hardcore gamer) but I've had only one PS3. I'm on my 5th 360, (all free replacements thank god) which is currently gathering dust thanks to my growing collection of games and blu-ray movies. Gears 2 didn't let me down, but Fable 2 sure as hell did.


Last edited by fatelementality on 5/5/2009 11:04:39 PM

NightHawk17
NightHawk17
14 years ago

Don't even get me started on fable 2, and i loved the first>_>

DarthNemesis
DarthNemesis
14 years ago

I always laughed at the fools who doubted Sony and the PS3.See,they don't understand what made the PSX and PS2 great.It was never sales,it was always quality and great exclusives.

Sony still has the best exclusives bar none without having exclusive 3rd party support.The Wii has the most sales and I am sure that we can all agree that the console is crap when it comes to quality games.

I have been supporting Sony since summer 1996 and always believed in the PS3.After all,the PSP is largely successful despite piracy and everyone claiming that it was dying.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
14 years ago

When the PS3 was still ailing I went into a brief hibernation with the games I had, stayed on my PS2 and carefully bided my time; I watched the fray and the 360 fanboys running wild and insane over the internets and still I lay in wait drumming my fingers against eachother like an evil genius and now the time to pounce is nigh. The 360 is now the system with "no games" and little in the pipe.

Now we know we made the right decision, got the better hardware, are getting the better software, and have outlasted the moronic horde to which you refer. Listen closely on a quiet night and you can hear me cackling in the dark :)~


Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 5/5/2009 11:28:48 PM

Alienange
Alienange
14 years ago

That was hilarious… and probably true.

Neurotoxiny
Neurotoxiny
14 years ago

There's a whole lot of PS3 hate at my school…

People are saying Halo 3 looks better than Killzone 2. Wow…

It's only because they were too dumb to buy a PS3. Fools. JK, I'm a dork :p

0.o

crapreviews
crapreviews
14 years ago

all those haters are still hating. they hating cuz they finally had to go buy a ps3 and play all the great games on it. yep they still hating… 😛

Nynja
Nynja
14 years ago

Amen.

Mamills
Mamills
14 years ago

Preach Brother! Preach!

You can't expect a company as large and considered veterans in the industry to be out that easily. SONY deserves better than that. Xbox has definitely proved that they finally have a game machine (cuz the 1st XBOX was horrible.) and yes they are ahead of PS3 right now, but lets just say that's not going to be for long. C'mon every gamer i know in real life owns a PS3. and if they have either of the 2, they use the PS3 as their primary one. Any1 that has no next gen console is just waiting for either 1 of 2 things. Final Fantasy or a price drop. C'mon SONY bring it, im just sitting back and waiting for the games to come

karneli lll
karneli lll
14 years ago

Those who take risks will be rewarded,it may take a while, but it will happen.

Its hard to picture a gaming future without Sony. We would probably be playing halo 8 and gears 4.

Wait…almost there you say? Sad.

Alienange
Alienange
14 years ago

If the PS3 ever does eclipse the Wii, that would truly be epic. As it stands though, my grandmother still doesn't want a PS3. Crazy old nut.

natho86
natho86
14 years ago

sir shak, i read the KZ2 review at gamestyle man what a load of crap i think that guy was pulling himself off with his master chief helmet on when he wrote that!!!!!

b3mike
b3mike
14 years ago

In the sanctuary of mother's basement no less!

OriginalSin
OriginalSin
14 years ago

Amen to that.

Unfortunately there will always be people trying to "doomify" (made that up) the Playstation brand…. It happened with the 1st the 2nd and now the 3rd one even the PSP. It will keep happening up to the end. I say let them cause every single time (as history shows) the Playstation Brand has proved the haters wrong.

As for the review that guy made….What a chop. I can't believe that someone that writes crap like that probably has people reading that sh** and believing is even allowed to put that on a site. If it was true fair enough but obviously it isn't. If he worked for me I'd fire him…. Not because I'm a fanboy but because he obviously doesn't do a good job… probably just to find out he doesn't mind seeing he's getting payment from M$ every month….

Banky A
Banky A
14 years ago

On the contrary, I recently read the comments of some misled PS3 haters on CNET.com

Then I supplied some good folks from here with the link to read it with me.

=D

b3mike
b3mike
14 years ago

Great read Ben, all these positive articles are what keeps me coming back to this great community. At least here I don't get crucified for liking the Playstation brand.

SubjectiveTruth
SubjectiveTruth
14 years ago

I love Metal Gear.

AntDC
AntDC
14 years ago

Guys, don't kid yourselves, the PS3 is dieing and you all know it.

😉

Douchebaguette
Douchebaguette
14 years ago

OHOHOHOHOHOH, I almost fell for that xD.

Banky A
Banky A
14 years ago

He's right 🙁

luisama
luisama
14 years ago

When the PS3 was announced in that infamous E3, with a "HIGH" price… REALLY, only the price was "wrong" in the console.
BIG point, but it only allowed nintendo and microsoft reach higher sales, if the PS3 were launched at the expected HALF price, the xbox 360 and wii today were dead in the water.
BUT the "cheap" cost you "more" as my granddaddy used to say.

the wii is just smoke and mirrors period, you get the same result from waving the wand like a maniac that just shaking it 1 inch, its more a motion sensor than a motion 3D sensor, its fun one day and for a while, but get bored aftertime, nobody go to see the same magic show every day.

the xbox 360, well if the wii are smoke and mirros, the xbox is just an empty box. it break more often than a window in front of a baseball park, zero exclusives games, any game released can be found on a PS3 or a PC, halo and gears in fact get better graphics in a PC, anyone remember the BETA, sorry my mistake, HD-DVD failure, or that half the consoles miss the HDMI, making the consoles with HDMI useless since not developer can just code for the best and forget the rest, i think the HDMI was so you can actually play HD-DVD in full resolution, but since microsoft think 720p is enough for most TVs, and 1080p is useless… you get the idea, i can accept pay to blizzard for my WOW joy, but i get dedicated servers and the game is played in those servers making my PC just a client… but how in name of God, microsoft can justify pay to play online, if i host the game in my console, and use none bandwidth from microsoft servers to play, did i mention microsoft POINTS, whats the point?, i will leave it here, but i can go for a long list.

the PS3 is only getting better features via firmware, from a basic launched console that still today in just hardware is far away from their competitors, head to head to the xbox 360, you get wifi, blu-ray and free play online, thats just a $800 today value, less cut $200 from the blu-ray player that each day pass its more clear its not unnecessary and neither unwanted, wifi and play free online are almost a must, even dropping the wifi $100, you get 10 years without paying $50, thats $500 not wasted that you can use to buy games, and thats without mention upgrading hard disk, cost and wasted time in dead consoles,etc remember the "cheap" cost you "more". the PS3 is simple the best, best hardware, best reliable, best software, best online (yeah its best in my eyes, free, home, store, etc), best exclusives, best cam, best media support, best interface, you can use as a PC via linux, compatible with any USB keyboard, storage, etc, best downloadable games, best PSP friend,etc to be fair the only down is the compatiblity with ps2, and as much as i think is more a RP thing, i expect it returning via the firmware 3, or maybe later if sony extended even more the ps2 life.

MMMM… i microsoft hater you may think, i never denied it, in fact i was saying similar thing from the last couple of years and i always know i will have the last laugh.

i quoted myself from 2 years ago
"if you had microsoft shares you must sell them all now, cause you never will be see that price again, it had reached their peak price and now is just going down, maybe microsoft wont go to bankrupty, but you bet it will be just a shadow"
as today im still a nostradamus lol
i still believe that by 2012 microsoft will go away, "you can sell anything for gold, but after a while, when the people discover how you do it and see its easy, anyone can make it and that you are selling it way overpriced, everyone star making their own and then you cant sell it anymore even for a dollar"
hope i quote this 2 years from now

crump602
crump602
14 years ago

Well said Ben! PS3 is gunna be around for a long time! Thats what happens when you mess with a sleeping MONSTER.

www
www
14 years ago

My LIVE friends still say the ps3 is "a waste of time",likewise my PSN people say 360 is dumb.

Me i also agree the ps3 can reach if not surpass 360 cause it's in a too good position.Like the out-gone David Reeves said,it's a tortoise and hare race,ps3 could definitely come out victorious.No wait,so what do we call the wii a cheetah? as in a cheater who isn't next-gen but is way ahead of the race?

AwRy108
AwRy108
14 years ago

I told everyone that the PS3 is a lumbering giant: once it gets moving, there ain't no stoppin' it.

Microsoft blew its 360 load in the first 2 years of the console because of its early launch. Now it's time for SONY to just roll on past 'em.

The 360's biggest problem–other than the RRoD–is its lack of exclusive developers. Sure, they have EPIC and Lionhead, but neither of these studios produces the quality and number of titles that SONY's 1st and 2nd party studios can create.

hobgoblin
hobgoblin
14 years ago

Unfortunately, even though these days there's not as much "hate" going on, it's still gonna happen. While no-one can argue (though they still do, and tbh it's getting quite pathetic) that there are "no games on PS3", the "haters" will always find something to diss the PS3 about. At the moment (by the looks of it) it's this:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=214338&site=cvg

Kind of ironic don't you think: Microsoft pays for exclusivity, 360 owners rejoice and rub it in PS3 owners faces, PS3'ers get used to the fact. However, PS3 gets the timed(atm??) exclusive, they are happy, 360'ers start slagging PS3 off again. Whilst I'm a bit surprised that its become this "exclusive" so near to release date, i do remember reading somewhere a while back (if you find the link, please post), that a dev on G'Busters said that they had the potential to do a lot more for the PS3 version, but it had to be scaled down for the multi-plats.

psxmax
psxmax
14 years ago

The PS3 hate turned into "Wii has no games" and "my Xbox 3fixme crapped out for the 60th time". Sony consoles always start off a little slow, but once they get momentum watch out.

I admit at the beginning of the PS3 it seemed like Sony's focus was only trying to win the Blu-ray vs HD DVD war, but after they won they have shifted their focus back on the PS3.

If you look back, the major turning point was when Sony introduced the 40 GIG for $399. If they introduce the 20 GIG for $299 then things will get even more crazy.


Last edited by psxmax on 5/6/2009 7:47:58 AM

raztad
raztad
14 years ago

@Adam

You are spot on.

PS3 was Sonys weapon in the HD war. It was a gamble, Sony had to wait a full year (after 360 release) before pushing out the PS3 so it got the BluRay tech in it, it granted the PS3 a very sloooooow start, few to none exclusives games, MS stealing former ps2 exclusives, etc etc. It was pretty sad time for the PS brand.

However the gamble finally paid off, THE PS3 crushed HD-DVD in very short time, and now Sony first party strategy is in full swing, nothing comes close to the ps3 lineup, and it seems some games could be undisclosed at E3. Exciting stuff. Pretty good time to be a PS3 owner.

slackernz
slackernz
14 years ago

I never doubted Sony would eclipse Microsoft in this generation of console gaming. It hasn't happened technically (if you based it on total sales at present) but considering its amazing slate of exclusives and the increasingly growing support from 3rd party developers (e.g. getting to play Joker in Arkane Asylum and the newly announced Ghostbuster timed exclusive for the PAL version), I think it's fair to say that the era of ps3 domination is inevitable


Last edited by slackernz on 5/6/2009 8:04:19 AM

Godslim
Godslim
14 years ago

its a good point there used to b so many ps3 h8 at the beginning bring out the old ps3 has no games even though it had only just been realesed…there used to b loads on utube aswell 🙁

Jordahn
Jordahn
14 years ago

PS3 is awesome and worth every bit of it. I still come across haters that put the hate before the games. Because of that, they are not gamers and will never be one until they learn to put games before personal unfounded hatred aside. I'm having fun with my PS3. Too bad they aren't.

Edmeist33
Edmeist33
14 years ago

I'm in awe that there are still people who say the PS3 has "no games". Those days are long, long gone. There's only two things holding Sony back in my opinion, and they are; 1. Price and 2. Sucky ass advertising. Although they somewhat turned a new leaf in the ad department with KZ2.


Last edited by Edmeist33 on 5/6/2009 8:51:24 AM

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