The question in the headline should be explained: we're not asking which console is "better" and it has nothing to do with sales. The question is designed for avid gamers and asks that if you consider every facet of a video game console purchase, would more hardcore gamers out there choose the PS3 over the 360 at this particular point in time?
When the PS3 first launched, no real gamer immediately went out and paid $600 for what the console offered that day. I'm not saying gamers who bought it on launch day made a bad decision, but their thought process would've been very different in 2006 than it would be now, in early 2009. Then, I know people who bought the PS3 thinking, "this is going to give me my RPG fix." Now, as a big RPG fan, I find myself continually turning to the 360 for that. Then, I really had no intention of going online at all with the PS3; if I was going to do that, it would be with the superior Live service. Now, I actually prefer the content on the PSN, and over the past few years, the free Network has made great strides. Then, the FPS and shooter fans all talked about Halo 3 and the impending Gears of War ; now, Killzone 2 owns the headlines.
There's no doubt that things have changed significantly, so it'll be interesting to hear what people have to say. We have no choice but to view both systems in very different lights, if we're being honest with ourselves…and we have to be just that when considering a console purchase. Consumers have to think of it all. Then, Blu-Ray was a neat little novelty, but it was hardly a selling point. Then, Uncharted was an unknown name and Final Fantasy XIII was still a PS3 exclusive. Some things haven't really changed (the 360's reliability is still sh** and the PS3 is still too expensive), but a lot really has, so the question remains: taking it all in, would the real gamers out there choose the PS3 over the 360 at this current point in time? If you didn't then, would you now? Or perhaps your viewpoint hasn't altered…?
I believe the last major hurdle for Sony lies in the price, but beyond that, the PS3 appears to be in excellent position. I would never have said the same thing in late 2006 or early 2007. Who did ? There has been such a major change in circumstances; I think it's important to ask this question again.
My ps3 was mt first choice and still is. The wii and xbox360 are still play whenever.
I don't see why you put the wii in the list you have. It's not really what I would call a "next gen" console. It's taking a step back if anything.
I Still and will always choose XBOX 360 for multi-platform games that go online. PS3 is the console I fire up with my friends. Singstar, Guitar Hero, Rock Band etc.
i dunno nasah for me my ps3 is the number one for everything i never played my 360 so i leant it to a friend and hes had it now for over a year…i choose ps3 for all gaming
I had my PS3 since launch and it still going great! Sony is the way to go.
2 years ago II was playing 360 more than ps3 now its the opposite way around.
@Cpt_Geez I went through the same thing but I gave my 360 to my sister, because I lost interest in it. Its about me my ps3 I love it to death.
I was doing the same until MGS4 came out and that is about the time I rid myself of the disappointing console(360). Now with KZ2 would just and split-screen online co-op my gaming life would just be too perfect.
I DID get the PS3 for my RPG fix, but now even though I am deprived of that, I am glad I chose it for it's reliability, free online, superior technology, better support, and exclusives. The damned thing is just so solid in every way that yes, I'll even wait around for it to catch up in the RPG department.
Could I become a dual next-gen console owner? Yes, but the horror stories are enough to keep me with PS3 alone, probably for the duration.
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I'm also in need of some RPG fix. its a sure thing that will be cleared up in the future.
@WorldEndsWithMe I say stay with your ps3 shes love u alot, u will break her heart if u leave her, I had the box and I wasn't too impress with there line up. gears1 is better then gears2 in my opinion. Halo3 is done and over with no need me to play ODST, master is the halo franchise and halo don't need a spin-off.
White Knight's comin baby!
Is there a release date for White Knight?
Keep an eye on X (Cross) Edge! It's coming in May.
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nah no date, but its gotta be comin around summer (i hope)
I bought the 360 at launch because I really liked my original XBox. I would never had swung 600.00 for a PS3 when it came out. But, I really wanted to upgrade my DVD player with a blu-ray player and after the 360 died on me I serviced contracted it out and waited for a deal, the Sony store finally came through and I was able to get a 40 PS3 for 299.00 if I signed up and used the Sony card to purchased it. Best thing I ever did, the thing is a marvel unable to be compared to anything on the market today. heck, I just upgraded it to a 500gig hard drive for 69.00. how can you go wrong! I use all the features! as for the 360, I only buy used exclusives and watch netflix with it every once in a while. maybe it will last longer than a yugo with a blown head gasket.
Just got one of my good buddies to finally buy a ps3, he loves it.
Same here, I actually let him get a taste of Killzone 2 and he sold his 360 the next week for a PS3. He said hes pretty happy with his decision
All of my RL friends are broke so they go for the 360.. or they don't care.. =(
But whatever, I've been having a lot of fun with my friend on the 360 lately anyways, with Gears/Halo/L4D.
I just wish some games were like the good 'ol days, back during the PS2's life, y'know, when games shipped with split-screen MP, and almost always with bots. K2 kinda pissed me off with that, so it's kind of why I'm mentioning it. But it's not only with the PS3, but with the 360 as well..
However, I am also enjoying SP games more than ever, so it's not really that big of an issue.
Man I love it the most when games offer split screen. Unreal tournament is getting it soon on a DLC, does anyone still plays it?
Split screen ftw!
lol i had UT3 when it came out but then sold it not much later because it didn't have split. it was the reason i got the game. let's just say i was pretty upset over that.
Good to hear that they`re finally implementing it tho. =)
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Yeah. Im there once we get the new maps.
Yeah I did the same exact thing Daedusian.
My 360 and I grew to hate each other, it decided to stop ejecting disks and I decided to stop resisting throwing it at the wall in the garage. It is such a shoddy piece of electronics. Thankfully ebay allowed me to recoup some of my losses. The PS3 is going to prove its lasting power far longer than the Xbox360's last few years of terror.
Gotta say Ben, the beginning bit where you make it sound as if 2006/2007 was bad for the ps3 disturbs me.
In fact I disagree with it completely.
The ps3 has always had great online service/games. Might've lacked FEATURES back then. But in terms of being able to play online it was, and it has always been great.
So I disagree strongly there. Resistance, Motorstorm, Warhawk. I personally couldn't have asked for a better lineup of EARLY online games.
I think n00bs are just starting to realize that the 360 was a last-gen console. And that it has a short lifespan, literally…
The ps3 is MERELY a 7 million in sales behind the 360. Again really have to point that out, since that's an easy number for Sony to close off. Gran Turismo 5 alone can almost, if not for sure close that gap.
I know what you're saying, but a Store that only had a few pieces of content, those games you listed, Blu-Ray that hadn't gone anywhere yet, and a $600 price tag is a LOT different than what the PS3 is now…don't you think?
True true, but so was the competition…
I just don't see the software and online as the problem those two years
Though the price, yes.
Hell i payed $600 within a week of the PS3's release. It wasn't for the content that was present at the time, but rather the fact that I knew Sony was reliable and that things would improve in the future.
I'm a patient guy, and I trusted Sony, so back then and even now I consider my purchase a great one. Expecially since I did my research and saw that the price I payed was far less than the manufacturing costs.
totally agree with scarecrow.
as for me,as i stated before in other posts,the only reason i would consider 360 are the exclusives like halo3,doom 4,left 4 dead,half-life,etc.,otherwise i much prefer ps3 which is the only next-gen console that i own. so nothing has changed for me. as i still believe sony is the future…
Doom 4 and Half Life MS exclusives? Half Life is multi-plat and Doom 4 is scheduled as a multi-plat.
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The 360 is basically a PC dressed in green sheep's clothing (haha get it?!) Since I have a powerful PC my time spent with the 360 has been average at best while I've always viewed the PS3 as a true next gen console.
I wouldn't say that…it has little to do with a PC except for its cheap DVD drive and overheating problems (due to an inept system builder). Also, M$ doesn't really want it to be anything other than a game console…at least in any manner that would compete much with Windows (e.g. a web browser). It too uses a PPC-based CPU (as does the Wii), so has more in common w/ a Mac than a PC. 🙂
I have been thinking a lot about the whole thing about the controls of Killzone 2 and I have realized that these people are complaining about milliseconds of lag which is a bit understandable when precision is key to a game but that is all they are saying. They can only find milliseconds of lag in the controls to b*tch about. So the statement that now Killzone dominates the headlines is very very true and not only the headlines but the genre as a whole IMHO because if the only gripe people can come up with is milliseconds of control lag then you have to have a hit game on your hands
It's the difference between average and pro… I believe lag is a little more than a few milli-seconds, otherwise people wouldn't be complaining about it… try to track a target easily whilst in a frenzy and your sights go all over the place because of the "realistic" momentum and the added lag… I am still enjoying the game; easily one of the best shooters around…
Q!
"i am home"
As someone who love KZ2 but does not love the controls I am finally getting used to it. That being said I still think the best thing GG can do is "tweak" the deadzone in the right annalog if nothing else than then to encourage more people to play this fantastsic game.
The greatest reasons the PS3 is better than the Xbox is Blu-Ray, exclusives like resistance, killzone and motorstorm, and it's black. Black just looks cooler than white. I know that sounds racist, but seriously, the black color scheme is cool. Like splinter cell cool. seriously.
Haha, It didn't look racist till you brought it up, but I guess i'll let it slide since what you said was in the "black's favor". JK
Hey Ben, are you guys thinking about a PSXE Killzone 2 clan? Just wondering…
Pretty sure there is one. Check the forums.
How do you join the PSXE Killzone 2 clan? Does someone have to invite me?
I know…..check the forums.
I still play my PS3 but my launch day 360 is still getting more attention at the moment.
Ultimately, I'm glad I own both.
Can anyone join this PSXE clan? or is it run by someone else hmm …anyways, I bought my ps3 a little over a year ago for about $599 CDN and couldn't be happier, it's an 80gb one with b/c, and came with 3 games (none of which i still have >.>) and a remote. Umm ..I didn't have a problem paying this much because I remember paying about $550 for my ps2 way back when, and I think the same for my ps1 back in the day (I could be wrong, but I know it was expensive too) I think the ps3 is the best purchase i've ever made, i paid almost the same price as my ps2 when it first came out, and yet the online is way superior (especially now as you said Ben) the games are soo much better (loving KZ2 and LBP) and I'm using the browser right now actually, i don't even use my pc anymore for hardly anything, and I know it's only going to get better from here on out.
On a side not, i've never even considered getting an xbox, i've been playing playstation since the original PS.
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I got my PS3 first. Then in december I decided to get a 360 because there were some exclusive games I wanted to play on it.
Kinda wish now that I didn't waste my money, all I ever use is the PS3. especially now with Killzone 2 and Flower
Well, 6 SPEs, since 1 is for PS3 OS and 1 is disabled (if not bad). 8 only if you count the reserved SPE and the 'hypervisor' PPE.
Yes, 360 has a 3-core Cell-like CPU, but supposedly the ATI GPU is capable of a bit more on its own than the nVidia RSX on the PS3, but I think that was by design…to let the RSX handle the more basic/mundane GPU tasks while SPEs handled the more intricate stuff. That difference aside, I think the PS3 still has more overall horsepower (and less bottlenecking).
Gamer or not , how can anyone make multiple purchases of shoddy hardware ?
Besides , the PS3 has great games across a variety of genres .
I don't own either system yet, so maybe I'm thinking it from a slightly different perspective.
I always buy my consoles used whenever I've get some extra coin, & that way I have a lot left over to buy a batch of used games with it.
After the PS3 came out, I still wanted a 360Elite first, but since I was cash strapped, I was also quite willing to wait it out a couple years till the used 360 prices came down to a reasonable price.
But since then, and because of all the horrible RROD story's(even the newer chipped ones), and also how the PS3 is now just starting to break out & become the beast of a entertainment center I think it will be, I've reversed my thinking & am going to hunt down a older 60GB PS3 first in about 4 weeks, & then see if I can find a cheap used 360Elite(just for it's exclusives, and to put in my gaming collection).
But till then, I still have 9 systems, including the Xbox, PS1, and PS2, that are still keeping me happily occupied till then.
How bad do you want a 60gb PS3?
Just to stick in my 2 cents. I bought my PS3 for the $600 and have never looked back. Blu-ray sure didn't rocket off, but it was a damn good start, because look where it is today. People have no patience, which is why the xbox 360 sold so well. Especially here in America, where everyone has the "I want it now, and I want it cheap" mentality. Look like I have been saying since the start, you get what you pay for. I for one was so shocked at the power of the PS3 in it's 2nd year, the xbox had nothing like that in it's second year. Heavenly Sword was a masterpiece and Motorstorm is still a great looking game to this day. Hell even Uncharted stands with the big boys.
I was one of the few to buy a 60gb system and I have loved it ever since, especially since KZ2 is now out. That 2005 trailer is the reason I got a ps3